U.S. citizen DHS detained for 10 days has intellectual disabilities, family claims

I was going to write close your eyes and pretend you are a decent person but yours works better.

 

This one is certainly more understandable if you have the guy saying he's an illegal immigrant and the family saying he's not. Is 10 days too long to figure out the truth - maybe? Plus you have to factor in that the family would incentive to lie IF he was illegal. At least he was brought before a judge and they kept him in custody and didn't ship him off to another country while sorting it out.

 

Sure, being polite is why you didn’t get a ticket.

 

Do you have a link to something indicating that he said he was from New Mexico? The article indicates that he said he was from Mexico

 

The guy had a medical emergency and wound up in a hospital, without his ID. He approached an ICE Agent to ask for help, and told the ICE Agent he was from New Mexico. The ICE Agent didn't believe him.

“You’re not from here. Do you have your papers?” Hermosillo recalled the officer saying. Hermosillo said that the officer accused him of lying about being from New Mexico, saying, “Don’t make me [out] like [I’m] stupid. I know you’re from Mexico.”
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The 19-year old also cannot read or write in English, and has limited Spanish literacy capabilities. His signature on his "confession" was just his first name, Jose, written like a 5-year child would write it.

The department also posted a copy of Hermosillo's sworn statement on X in which Hermosillo responded "yes" when asked if he had entered the U.S. illegally. The document shows a child-like signature that reads "Jose."

In a phone interview Tuesday, Hermosillo's parents told CBS News their son suffers from intellectual disabilities, cannot read or write and has trouble speaking. They said he could not have possibly known what he was signing when he was detained.
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What should have happened is the ICE Agent should have first, believed him when he said he was from New Mexico. Second, he should have gotten local police involved so the poor guy could have gotten to safety. Instead, he was arrested and detained for 10 days.

 

What the OP had in his post was that he said he was from Mexico. So now we have conflicting information.

 

ICE claimed he was from Mexico, and he signed a confession he came from Mexico illegally. His story is he told ICE he was from New Mexico, ICE didn't believe him, and then forced him to sign documents he was illegal from Mexico. Papers that aren't worth anything, because of his diminished mental state.

 

That not how I’m reading the original post.

 

Does it even change your mind that an American citizen said he was not believed by ICE after telling him where he was from and was locked up for 10 days and all they have is a kids first name on a sheet of paper he can’t read?

 

Look at it from the perspective of CPB agent:

• Guy is wandering around in area where border crossings occur
• Appears to have been outside for quite a while
• Only speaks Spanish
• Appears to be uneducated and had a hard time articulately communicating that he's a citizen

I'd think he was likely a border crosser also. We have an entire thread complaining about people not getting due process. This guy did and it eventually got sorted out. From the timeline in story, it seems like the judge didn't immediately believe him either and needed some time to get to the truth.

There's plenty to criticize this administration about, which I do on here A LOT, but this isn't a 10 on the outrage meter imo.

 

Like the articles said, at the time he was picked he told ICE he was from Mexico.

 

A couple of years back when I posted that story I think I made it clear than had I opted to drive on and turn off on a side street before he got through the light he never would have caught me. I was apologetic as he was walking up to my window and informed him I knew what I did and he realized I could have easily gotten away. Now had I kept driving and not even tried to run there is no doubt I would have gotten a ticket and probably even worse had I tried to talk back at him or run.

It had nothing to do with race or anything else. My point was if you are civil about those types of incidents your chance of not being ticketed or arrested goes down tremendously.

 

Holding him for 10 days seems pretty damn outrageous. What if he had medical needs or died in custody? He should have been out same business day as contacting his family (or worst case next business day). Did it take 10 days to contact his family?

Really, trying to pin the blame on a mentally challenged individual is unconscionable. But once in contact with his family they needed to expedite his immediate release.

 

How many days did it take for them to contact his family and get everything straightened out?

 

No. That’s what the ICE agent said. The US citizen said he told the officer he was from New Mexico and was not believed. Again. Pretend he was white and claimed he told the officer he was from New Mexico but the agent didnt believe him. Why would someone claim to be Mexican and then retract it later?

 

Given the he didn’t speak English, it’s not a stretch that perhaps he said New Mexico but they heard Mexico.

 

What is it about this guy that you wont give him the benefit of doubt? It’s the governments job to prove he belongs locked up… not this kids job to prove he doesn’t. He said what he told him and you are bending over backwards to excuse it.

Here is a conjecture you don’t need to bed over on: Mexican looking kid says he’s from New Mexico and the ICE agent emboldened in lawlessness just decides that doesn’t sound right and locks him up for 10 days.

 

look, I get that it takes some time & effort to replace a mkt economy with a command economy, but how much effort does it take to sign an EO making it New America?

 

I'd still kinda like to know what he was doing visiting his girlfriend in Arizona by himself if his family is so concerned about his mental capabilities. Seems to me it was them who put him in this situation not so much ICE.

 

An American citizen was detained 10 days for no reason and your takeaway was that "shouldn't have been allowed to have free movement in the US". You all will try to justify literally anything.

If he would have been rolling coal with a "no step on snek" flag 5 months ago and this happened, we would have heard that Biden needs to be impeached