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Resistance - Harvard to Fight Back

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Apr 9, 2025.

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  1. docspor

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    Biggest. Government. President. Ever.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    no fascism here, we are protecting jewish students

    no habaeus corpus violations, just hardened gang members, well maybe citizens, but only really bad ones. trust us..

    no free speech violations - we are just exporting anti-jewish terrorists, trusts us

    no destruction of the regulators that would inhibit our illegal acts - this is cost cutting

    no insane off the cuff tariffs - just negotiating a master strategy

    no destruction of long time alliances - just getting them to pay their share

    no retribution - just weeding out weak links that will not be able to effectively carry out our agenda

    no ignoring judges orders - don't understand exactly what is required
    - didn't know the plane was going to leave
    - wasn't in the written order, just the oral order
    - can't make that tough man in El Salvador do anything

    what swill will they finally refuse to swallow or do they really want a dictator?

    discouraging
     
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  3. citygator

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  4. dynogator

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    Using the IRS as your personal retribution agency is a big no-no. Trump is once again sticking his stubby little fingers where they don't belong.

    Remember when the Pubs were outraged when they suspected one of their own had been politically targeted for an audit at the behest of a Dem?

    The authority to investigate and change tax-exempt statuses rests solely with the IRS, and the president is barred from directly or indirectly requesting that the agency exercise that power against taxpayers.
     
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  7. demosthenes

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    Imagine the highest officials in our government writing with such partisan vitriol. It’s unbecoming and embarrassing.
     
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  8. slocala

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    I’m on the side of the admin on this one.

    State Department should have reasonable access to review conduct of those on student visas.

    Universities should, at minimum, for their own protection clearly educate constitutionally protected free speech for those on student visas. Illegal activity (hate speech, assault, etc) should be clearly explained and warnings provided for those on student visa. A do’s and don’ts list of legal activities is a good place to start.

    the “slippery slope” of government defining what is acceptable speech is sort of a red herring and easily defeated. A school like Harvard could easily have their law review editor write a training program for all students on protected free speech.

    Personally, I am more worried about students on visas that commit a misdemeanor (less than moral turpitude) and get swept up in a purge. There should be some definitional narrowing from extreme deportation policy.
     
  9. slocala

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    Good. All these endowments are tax deductions for wealthy and the money is kept out of the tax net while the middle class gets hammered. Screw them all. Go after UT, TA&M, Mich, and UC’s as well.

    They hoard education dollars, limit admissions, charge massive tuition rates, force students to take loans, and then forgiven by dumb Dem policy.

    Libby tax raising Trump is doing what the Dems should have done years ago.
     
  10. rivergator

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    Trump’s freeze on $2.2 billion to Harvard provided no proof of wrongdoing
    The Trump administration skipped over requirements, including offering to hold a hearing, when applying financial penalties related to civil rights violations

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2025/04/17/harvard-trump-grant-freeze-antisemitism/
     
  11. wgbgator

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    You cant do that without changing the law or proving these schools engaged in political activity, and you know as well as anyone that he's not going to do it across the board. People never seem to learn anything about this guy and how he operates. If Harvard et al has to pay more taxes, is that really going to accomplish expanded admissions or lower tuition for anyone? Use your brain, I beg of you lol.
     
  12. slocala

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    No reason to beg.

    Yes, IRS has to be prove tax-exempt org not meeting tax exempt status. High endowment Univ aren’t increasing admissions currently, and nothing is going to change… so I can still say screw them and eat the rich. We need the wealthy to pay taxes.

    Again, Libby Don raising taxes is a good thing. The Dems won’t do it. So, let MAGA do it.
     
  13. wgbgator

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    If you want a tax system based on the whims of an all-powerful king, er president, perhaps America and the Constitution isnt for you. Go back to England and King George, that seems to be what you are asking for.
     
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  14. slocala

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    LOL. Nope. Why are you being purposefully obtuse to the nuances?

    The tax exempt status is factual and based on the application of the law. If the IRS finds no wrong doing, it’s open close. Harvard has remedies in the courts if the IRS is weaponized. OT: On the tariffs, Congress has abdicated their authority. Trump raising taxes is anti-American… if you don’t see my sarcasm in pointing this out to MAGA… sorry
     
  15. wgbgator

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    There are no nuances here, you are inventing them. He made demands of Harvard to bend the knee to his whims and now he wants to punish them after they refused. This seems to happen with Trump ... he runs around operating like a mobster, then people who should know better invent "nuances" like that he's a "liberal" making rich people pay their taxes.
     
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  16. slocala

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    Ok. Let’s table and circle back to this if he gets one big beautiful bill and there is a tax hike for the wealthy. I’m sure there will be a separate thread.
     
  17. wgbgator

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    Well, don't hold your breath.
     
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  18. G8tas

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    I wish the Trump admin cared more about making college affordable for all than attacking schools for DEI initiatives
     
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    Then the next liberal can throw out the tax exemption of religious donations and religious institutions to only Christian institutions due to their positions on abortion. And then the next guy can pick his group to persecute. This American experiment is about to fall apart based on pettiness. Seems Shakespearian.
     
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  20. slocala

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    Come on man… No… again the IRS has to obtain evidence and make a ruling. The tax exempt has avenues to fight it in IRS appeals and litigate in court. It is illegal for the President to direct the IRS in this manner.

    If Congress wants, they can eliminate tax exempt status all together as well as eliminate the charitable deduction in exchange for a lower headline rate.
     
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