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How China's Military Views the United States

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Jun 18, 2020.

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    The U.S. is learning some things from the best ship-builders in the world: Japan and South Korea. These two countries have been building ships at a good pace since China started threatening other countries around Asia, and have learned some things along the way. Both countries are able to plan to the day when a ship will be finished with construction. They route piping straight through the ship, as opposed to weaving around obstacles. The piping occupies more room in the ship, but it is done much faster, and the ship does not necessarily need the additional room.

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    China is planning the world's largest solar panel system in outer space. The electricity will be converted to microwave radiation and beamed down to the earth. So, if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you could be vaporized. Or not.

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    So a power source and a weapon at the same time. Nazi Germany was working on such a death ray as well.
     
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    What do you mean "since China started threatening other countries around Asia"? Japan used to be the top dog, now they're a distant 3rd. Korea used to be neck-and-neck with China, both surpassed Japan and now China has definitively surpassed Korea, accounting for >50% of the global ships built last year by tonnage and >70% of the orders which indicates further growth in he years ahead. While China and SK were in a virtual tie for ~10 years, at least SK had the tech edge in that they had the vast majority of LNG orders (LNGs, along with Cruise Liners and Aircraft Carriers are considered the most advanced ship categories). However, China is rapidly catching up, with now ~40% of the LNG market (SK has the rest, as nobody else builds them). They've also just launched their first Cruise Liners, and we know about their advancements in ACs. Another issue SK faces is labor shortage, almost all (86%) of their new workers are foreigners, many of those come from China. As such they cannot be relied upon in a war time scenario. Japan faces the same issue, but they're less willing to import workers, contributing to their steep fall in shipbuilding capacity.

    Like all other areas of modern industry, the Chinese are advancing fast, and where they already have an edge the gap is getting bigger.
     
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    China does make a lot of ships. They also make a lot of cheap toys, too. We won't know if their military ships are any good until they try something with them. China has not won a naval battle in over 400 years. They have lots of nice missiles on their ships, but can they find targets to aim their missiles at? I saw an article that claims that China could sink all eleven U.S. aircraft carriers in 20 minutes. It's doubtful that they could locate all the aircraft carriers in 20 weeks, much less 20 minutes. The ocean is somewhat large. And carriers are well-defended.
     
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    When was the last time we won a naval battle, 1945? Neither navy has had any major naval engagement in a long, long time. Every question about the effectiveness of every weapons system can be applied to both sides at this point of time, at least as far as publicly available knowledge goes.
     
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    We just recently had ships in combat operations in the middle east, fighting off missiles from the Houthis in Yemen. We also supported ground action with aircraft carrier groups in several wars since WWII. It is not a full-blown war, in either case, but it is valuable experience. And even the naval battles of 1945 have likely created lessons learned that improved both ship design and training methods over the years. It is probably much more difficult to start your navy from scratch by reading books and filling in the blanks in your mind.

    We also have a better command structure for the military--different branches are better able to work to support each other. In communist countries, the different branches of the military are less likely to work well together due to internal politics, and a lack of trust.
     
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    Three of the Taiwanese president's bodyguards turned out to be Chinese spies. A fourth spy was discovered in the Defense Ministry. Presumably these were Taiwanese citizens who decided to sell out their country for money. How much money? About $8-20k. For some reason, the penalty was only 5-7 years in prison. Time for another fight in the legislature.

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    China privately admits they were behind the 2024 Volt Typhoon attacks on U.S. critical infrastructure. They were afraid to admit it when Biden was president, but they believe Trump is a weak president, so they admitted it now. They admitted it in an ambiguous way, to suggest to Trump that bigger and better attacks could happen if he does not re-think his tariff strategy, and to remind Trump that he should not interfere in China's invasion of Taiwan. Sadly, this admission came after Dear Leader laid off a substantial number of employees in NSA's cybersecurity department. Trump continues to weaken America.

    China admits behind closed doors it was involved in Volt Typhoon attacks