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Are All the Trumpers in Hiding? Or Finally Embarrassed?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_jo, Apr 10, 2025 at 9:47 PM.

  1. reboundgtr

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    Jawja
    Not much difference in both sides jerking off to the same crap everyday, not offering any original ideas. It’s really original to daily parrot the party mantra I hate (insert politician) calling others names like magats, libs, etc. marginalizing, and spewing hate towards people that didn’t vote the way you voted. Touting your “intellectual superiority” over others who didn’t vote like you. It’s not hard to see why the current person in the WH won though. It’s the beauty of free speech and common sense, we get to see the real ugly side of people and go from there. Why this forum still exists is beyond me. It’s the butt of jokes on the site. It’s the FB of this site really, where name calling is justified and psych people can come to get first hand lessons in border line disorders and narcissism. Carry on.
     
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  2. PITBOSS

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    “We’re living in a bizarro world where heroes are being targeted and scoundrels are in a position to target them,”

    David Axelrod
     
  3. Contra

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    Milton Friedman explained the causes of the Great Depression very well. The Fed was primarily responsible for the Great Depression given its failed monetary policies. Tariffs had little to do with the Great Depression.

    I am still sympathetic to the argument that in general tariffs are not the optimal economical policy in an ideal world. That is most definitely the case in the short term, but when we study many historical parallels those examples lack the current complex geopolitical relationship that exists between the US and China.

    Containing China is both a military and economic strategy, and at times a winning Cold War strategy might be the superior priority over the best economic policy for US GDP, unemployment, inflation, etc. Even Biden was willing to make some concessions on free global trade to contain China if you look at his chips policy.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Friedman argued that Smoot-Hawley substantially deepened the Depression. Which is the minimal position of just about every economist.
     
  5. Contra

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    The primary cause of the Great Depression was that the Fed inadvertently contracted the money supply by fully 33%, per Milton Friedman
     
  7. citygator

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    Meh. 148 words of name calling and acting intellectually superior to people you think are name calling and acting intellectually superior.

    You win the irony-hypocrisy-contradiction triple jump. Nice!
     
  8. reboundgtr

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    Another observation, taken personally of course, that goes right over your head. The mere fact you counted the words shows alot. Thanks for the support.
     
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  9. citygator

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    More insults. You’ve met the enemy and it is you.

    ChatGPT counted. The fact you think people are counting words manually. lol.
     
  10. chemgator

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    Then why the hell would you piss off the rest of the world by slapping tariffs on them? WHY? Trump's tariffs have caused other countries to de-couple economically from the U.S., and the tariffs eroded trust in the U.S. government. We need European countries and others to go along with our plan to limit China economically, and to Trump, step 1 is to piss off your allies by harming them with tariffs? To other large countries like Brazil, Turkey and India, this just pushes them closer to China and further from the U.S. The U.S. should try to be the world leader in trade issues, and Trump's idiocy has actually strengthened China's position as a world economic leader instead of weakening it. Trump showed himself to be a rank amateur, if not a complete clown, on this issue.

    Had Trump wanted to ensure cooperation from Europe and others on his China negotiations, he could have privately suggested to them that they would get tariffs if they did not cooperate, but slapping tariffs on them up front was a horribly stupid move.
     
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  11. gator_jo

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    Yeah, sure buddy.

    Get back to us when both sides are led by an adjudicated sexual assaulter, convicted felon who clearly enacted a criminal conspiracy to overturn an election, who stole classified documents and refused to give them back, and was indicted by four different grand juries for approximately 90 felonies.

    Oh wait - not both sides. Good try though.
     
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  12. Contra

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    There is a cognitive dissonance here with the outrage at Trump coupled with no outrage at other countries who started this...kind of like the infamous Dallas Baker flag against Tennessee. The tariffs are reciprocal because other countries did it first. When they stop doing it to us we'll stop doing it to them.
     
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  13. citygator

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    Come on man.

    Vietnam’s average tariff on US goods was 12%% last year.

    The US tariff on Vietnam goods is about 9.5%.

    Why are we putting a 46% reciprocal tariff on a 2.5% difference? Trump’s policies are crazy. It’s unserious in a world where we need serious. He’s being a clown, not a President.
     
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  14. chemgator

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    Based on Trump's idiotic formula that is proof that Trump doesn't know the difference between a tariff and a trade imbalance? Seriously?

    Other countries have a trade imbalance with the U.S. not because they are taking advantage of the U.S. with any kind of tariff, but (for the most part) because they either have easy access to raw materials that we don't, or they have cheap labor (again, that we don't have). Who cares if Vietnam wants to make T-shirts for the U.S. and it creates a trade imbalance (because T-shirt factory workers are not well-paid and can't afford U.S. products)?

    The cognitive dissonance is between you and the facts, sir. Try not to be so ignorant in the future.
     
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  15. reboundgtr

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    Again thanks for proving my point of the post, whether it’s counting manual or chatgp the fact you did it to prove whatever goes right over you head. Taking the response as an insult? Again thanks for proving my point. You and Gator Jo don’t disappoint.
     
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  16. reboundgtr

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    Again thanks for proving my point with your cut and paste. I know what he did and what he is. Constantly regurgitating the same tired talking points doesn’t inspire conversation. Hence the point of my post. You and citygator don’t miss a beat.
     
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  17. gator_jo

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    No, you most definitely appear to not know what he is. Because you repeatedly cut and paste the same regurgitation comparing him to that which he is not like, and his worshipers to those they are not like.

    Other than that though, valid points.

    And constantly, inaccurately saying "both sides" doesn’t inspire conversation. One side, after all, doesn’t blindly support a sexual assaulter felon who attacked America.
     
  18. flgator2

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    You have some weird dreams
     
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  19. flgator2

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    In the end Trump will have better deals for America, and you know this
     
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  20. flgator2

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    Talk about skid marks, you guys have been shitting all over selves since Trump won
     
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