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Florida is a better defensive team than Houston

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by murphree_hall, Apr 8, 2025.

  1. murphree_hall

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    Defensive stats don't tell the whole picture, here. You have to watch the game and know what you are looking for. The key term for this conversation is fundamentals.

    Houston's defense relies on referees swallowing the whistle. On every possession, they are fouling multiple times. It's not always the obvious hacking type foul... it's grabbing arms, hidden from view lower body fouls, stiff arming offensive players to restrict movement, hand-checking, pushes in the back while rebounding, etc...

    In contrast, UF was the superior defensive team last night while playing fundamentally sound basketball. UF players move their feet, get in position, deflect balls, and contest shots. It's the correct way to play defense. While UF isn't necessarily known for being elite defensively, they certainly will show you their defensive skill if forced into that style of game. UF's defense is based on fundamentals and actual basketball, not football masquerading as basketball.

    I suppose some people like how Houston plays, but it's not for me. I do appreciate their hustle, but at least try to play fundamental basketball. Their whole goal is to turn it into a brawl with less actual basketball being played.
     
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  2. ajoseph

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    The game was not a fun game to watch at all. It was a brawl, start to finish. And we went punch for punch with them all game. And we got the last punch in to win the game.

    So, yes, we had the better defense, because … Scoreboard.
     
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  3. gatordavisl

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    Welcome back, murph!
     
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  4. g8rvet

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    I think we have seen more and more of these teams with lesser offensive skills relying on this technique. Tennessee is the main one that comes to mind (Detroit Pistons back in the day) Foul, foul, foul and force them to call them. It leads to muggings on the court regularly.
     
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  5. fox

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    The SEC season hardened us on both ends of the court.
     
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  8. ridgetop

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    There needs to be some accountability for refs swallowing the whistles. I’m not expecting nor asking for a perfectly called game but blatant clear no calls ( fouls on WCJ) have to be addressed. The Auburn game was horrendous.. Broome fouled every time on defense and no calls over and over. It takes what should be a fun, flowing game and turns it into an ugly game of attrition.
     
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  9. Skink

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    Another wounded Bulls fan perhaps? :D
     
  10. rserina

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    I thought Houston was terrific defensively. They are so aggressive with their ball screen coverages, but also very aware and active in their help. Rebounded well on that end, too. Foul trouble really got to them in the second half, especially when they had to play small. Had they been allowed to play like they did in the first half, it could have been a different story.

    But our defense was terrific down the stretch. Ignore the stats if you wish, but we only allowed 0.75 ppp the last 14 minutes and we forced more turnovers than made shots allowed. Just a phenomenal close by us. Aberdeen was a huge reason for that. Chinyelu and Richard were great, too. But you don't hold down a top-10 offense without contributions from everyone, including a great plan by the staff that refused to get beaten from the arc.
     
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  11. scooterp

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    Watered down Piston’s D …without the asshole persona.
     
  12. GatorLurker

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    OK, maybe the Pat Riley coached Knicks instead.
     
  13. g8rvet

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    heck no. Boston Celtics. The only Northern team I have ever followed. It is not like Danny Ainge was a saint though.
     
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  14. Brodeur

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    I would argue UF is a much team offensively than Houston. So for the two teams to appear evenly matched last night that requires Houston to be the better defensive team.

    Now if their games were reffed well and appropriately then Houston players would foul out and their defense wouldn't be as good, but that's not the world we live in.
     
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    Don’t know why the refs started calling fouls in the second half, but it ultimately helped us win the game.
     
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  16. murphree_hall

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    False. This game was a defensive battle and UF still won.

    UF's season FG% is 47.3% and Houston held them to 39.6%
    Houston's season FG% is 48.3% and UF held them to 34.8%

    UF also did this without grabbing, fouling and playing football as a defensive philosophy.
     
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  17. jeffphillips21

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    Agree with your take. But as importantly, where the hell have you been? Missed ya
     
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  18. murphree_hall

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    Enjoying life on the outside my brother. Hitting the gym, going to actual UF games in person, getting outdoors, etc... I gave myself a pass today since we won the championship. I definitely didn't go to the paid boards as @tilly slanderously suggested. I still came in and watched the conversations here.

    Missed posting here too, but I'm making a conscious effort to concentrate on the physical world as much as possible. Besides, how many times can I argue with people about how Walter Clayton Jr. is a great PG who can play more than 30 minutes a game before it gets repetitive? :confused:
     
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  19. jeffphillips21

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    so true man, so true. That's great you're taking a digital detox. Good for the soul. I'm hitting the gym and courts as well, building an eco adventure park business here in Southern Brazil, a few locations, so lots of time outdoors too. As long as we both work daily on our jump shot, just in case we get called into a game next year. @tilly was just trying to hold the dogs off
     
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  20. tilly

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    Wait.you werent on the pay side? Apologies brother!
     
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