Instate Admissions to UF

My youngest graduated from college in 2020

 

I'm starting to think colleges like money.

 

Not sure if in state kids have a tough time but I don't think they like to take too many kids from any one high school. A student with high GPA, activities, high SAT, etc. that can't get in from one high school probably could at another high school that had fewer applicants.

 

Maybe off-topic but this was interesting. The SAT should be made more difficult. Too many people getting over 1500..

 

My daughter did the same, went to UNC out of state instead.

 

Schools like to let in jocks because they tend to go into finance, make big money and reward their schools with donations.

MIT:s 2023 freshman class was 15% black. Obviously MIT's admission policy isn't based strictly on acsdrmics and ability to do the work

 

I've heard the exact same thing gtr2x. From an admissions officer when I took my daughter for her tour late last month. He said point blank that they favor in-state students over out-of-state ones.

 

Absurd. So UF would openly LIE like this?
"Nope. We have absolutely no preference for in-state vs. out-of-state students"

Approximately 11.69% of University of Florida students are from out of state, with the undergraduate student body spread across 43 states.

Multitude of stats across the web.

You are so dead wrong no use in arguing with you

 

People in Florida have had conspiracy theories about this for years. Rumors about screwing over Florida residents for out of state students have been, and remain, unfounded.

 

My oldest kid was out of state - class of 2020. The admissions office on our visit said to the crowd they dont give preference to instate or out of state students. Then they said between 88% of applicants and 88% of acceptances were in state as support. I dont remember the exact percents but they were about the same.

 

I think it is more the ability to study the test. So many spend time and dollars to learn how to take the test.

My oldest took it recently no prep and got 100% bright futures. She got a free math study book last week lol as that is all I told her she needed (she took Geometry in 8th grade and said those were the math questions she could not remember and with time being an issue). I truly think she will get 760-800 with just spending 2 hours the week before based on her testing in the past. English…probably need to pay someone for 2 hours on how to approach certain things but. If not we may spend a little if she wants to. But her call.

 

UF, like other flagship State universities, imperfectly accepts the best in-state students and the out of state students compete for a smaller % of the incoming class. The numbers show that in-state students still make up @ 75% - which is in line with schools like UVa, UNC, Texas, etc. Florida is a big state (population) and has a huge talent pool of college applicants within the State. So the competition is naturally very high for in-state applicants. Putting aside athletics, oboe expertise, saving cancer victims, etc., the out-of-state applicants are not "favored" because they pay higher tuition. Our University system is well-funded and doesn't need the relatively minor influx of out-of-state tuition. Our kids were accepted at UF and chose out-of-state schools (ouch to pocketbook), but that is where their interests and prospects were better aligned. It's a pisser when a Florida family's student isn't accepted in-state, but, as noted, many of them find their way to UF thru other avenues if that is their desired goal. UF is simply a hot ticket and there is national interest/competition for the limited spots. That's a good thing in general and why UF is considered in same league as UVa, UNC, Texas, etc., but not much solace to those not admitted on individual basis.

 

I think I heard the SAT Math test is about 10 points easier than it was pre-1995. Elon Musk got a 730 math score which today would be an 740. Elon got a 670 SAT Verbal score. SAT Verbal scores today are 90 points higher than pre-1995. The test was made easier.

Elon's 1400 score would be a 1500 score today

 

I just wonder if the "easier" has to do with technology and the ability to teach the test in an efficient amount of time...

 

I'm sure it's easier to prep for the test now but someone who gets a 1500 today would get about a 1400 on the old exam. The test has beensde easier.

 

I tend to agree. Speaking from personal experience there were virtually no SAT prep courses when I took the test back in 1967. I prepared for the test through a book, same for the LSAT and GRE four years later. Thanks to the late Stanley Kaplan who essentially pioneered the SAT prep course there are now numerous prep courses not to mention dozens of SAT prep programs. My son's high school even offered a free SAT prep course and that was back in 2005.

 

Correct. Easier to get into Harvard if you're a jock, for example. Jocks are more likely than most to get finance degrees, make a lot of money and donate to their university. Asians donate less, which might be one reason they are discriminated against Per Steve Sailer @Steve_Sailer

 

Asians are still representing disproportionately at Ivy League and other elite universities probably attributable to the extreme work ethic among Asians with the "tiger parent" stereotype coming to mind.
Tiger parenting - Wikipedia
Tiger parenting is a form of strict parenting, whereby parents are highly invested in ensuring their children's success. Specifically, tiger parents push their children to attain high levels of academic achievement or success in high-status extracurricular activities such as music or sports.[1] The term "tiger mother" ("tiger mom") was brought to public attention by Yale Law School professor Amy Chua in her 2011 memoir Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother.[2][3][4][5][6][7]