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NC Supreme Court Election

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Apr 7, 2025.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    still undecided..don't recall reading about this one..734 votes out of 5 M??

    N.C. Supreme Court halts decision requiring verification of 65,000 votes in tight judicial race

    The ruling Monday is the latest development in a long and winding saga following a close finish in the North Carolina Supreme Court race in November.

    Democratic state Supreme Court judge Allison Riggs, who was appointed to the bench in 2023, emerged after Election Day narrowly ahead of Republican candidate Jefferson Griffin, a state appeals court judge, triggering a series of recounts.

    A full machine recount as well as a partial hand recount of the race both showed Riggs leading Griffin by 734 votes. More than 5.5 million ballots were cast in the race. NBC News' Decision Desk has not yet called the race.

    After the recounts, Griffin’s team filed legal challenges across the state, alleging that more than 65,000 people voted illegally. Many of the allegations focused on voters who Griffin’s lawyers claimed didn’t have a driver’s license number or Social Security number on file in their voter registration records. Their claims were also related to overseas voters who haven’t lived in North Carolina and overseas voters who failed to provide photo identification with their ballots.
     
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  2. enviroGator

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    Note sure you saw the most aggravating part... the R controlled supreme court ruled that the 65,000 voters had 15 days to prove they were valid voters or their vote would be thrown out.

    They argued that letting even one invalid vote be counted would disenfranchise voters. But apparently throwing out thousands of valid votes won't.

    Edit: I was mistaken, it was a lower court that made that ridiculous decision. It has been appealed and stayed.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    what will be accepted as validation and who is trying to validate them and which ones will theya tart with first, ie start with the pub ones first to have the msot time to wait for a response..if anything, set a deadline from the date of contact so that each voter has the same amount of time to verify
     
  4. enviroGator

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    It is the voter's responsibility to prove they are legit. They won't be contacted, they haven't even been told they are on the list.

    It is all very bogus.
     
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  5. WarDamnGator

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    So how do they know who these 65000 people voted for? Don’t they required that once the signature is verified, the ballot is separated from the signature, for voter privacy?
     
  6. WarDamnGator

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    From the NC election board on mail in ballots….

    “Will anyone know who I voted for?

    No. Ballots remain in the sealed absentee envelope until they have been fully approved by the board. During the counting process, the ballot is removed from the envelope and fed into the tabulator. Ballots are secret by law, and others will not know who you voted for.”

    So what is the plan, here, throw out votes based on the percentages of how the 60,000 people are registered, regardless of how they actually voted?
     
  7. GatorTheo

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    Voter ID should be a no-brainer.
     
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  8. danmanne65

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    I thought this too but our secret ballot has a serial number and can be tracked. This is in Florida.
     
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  9. ncargat1

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    So should accepting that you lost a multi-time certified election, but the Republi(cans) seems to have huge issues grasping that.
     
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  10. JBKGator

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    What makes the situation egregious is that (as I understand it) they only challenged ballots in certain areas that lean Democratic, it was not a state-wide challenge of all votes.
     
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  11. GatorTheo

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    I think they're doing a lot better policing the voting than they did in 2020. I don't think the dems will be able to pull that off again.
     
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  12. JBKGator

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    Voter ID was required. All of the contested voters provided ID when they voted and met all voting requirements. The apparent issue is with incomplete information in the state's voter database, none of which appears to be relevant to improper identification of those who voted.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    thousands of local, state, and federal agencies looked

    66 court cases filed, all lost

    zero credible evidence presented then or since, tons of evidence documenting no fraud. from republican officials and judges across contested states

    why such a religious devotion to such a thoroughly disproven claim?

    if he told you the earth was flat, would you believe him?
     
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  14. GatorTheo

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    You mistake me for a trumper. Trumpers think I’m a RINO if not a democrat.
     
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  15. l_boy

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    then what did you mean by “pull that off in 2020”
     
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  16. G8trGr8t

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    Yet you parrot a proven false fact that only the most loyal MAGA still believe
     
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  17. gator_jo

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    You're still trying to insinuate the lie about fake election fraud in 2020, huh? Cool.
     
  18. tampajack1

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    Judge Allison Riggs has a BA, an MA, and a JD from UF. The Republican challenge is only in counties that have Democratic Party majorities. To even make this distorted challenge makes it clear that the Republican candidate is not fit to be a judge at any level or to even practice law.
     
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  19. WarDamnGator

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    That is what sunk Al Gore in the 2000 Florida recount, SCOTUS ruled that recounts had to be the whole state or nothing… now watch SCOTUS change thier minds if this makes it to them.
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    so what is stopping someone from appealing on the same grounds across the entire state?