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Hegseth Sends Top Secret Attack Plans to Journalist - By Mistake

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Mar 24, 2025.

  1. cluckugator

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    Like the rest of the world, I’ve heard about this all week but have been swamped and literally didn’t have 60 seconds to read about what actually was released until I put the kids to bed a few hours ago.

    HOLY SHIT. That is my only thought on the matter. Wow.

    They debated this like it was a too hot thread with Vance actually saying something reasonable about Trump not getting it, then falling in line when drunk Pete said bring your concerns up with POTUS.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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  3. ATLGATORFAN

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    while i disagree, I applaud the nature and presentation of your argument. These boards are made for discussion, disagreements and opinions. In my opinion there is not much here. Just because there is not the public scalp that you feel is needed or necessary doesn’t mean this wasn’t handled among themselves. I stated from the beginning, that is was an egregious error and also stated that it’s likely that nobody is more aware than a battle tested and experienced bronze star winning ODA team officer who is likely very aware of correcting real time F ups while in contact. There was nothing strategically or even tactically jeopardized. Now when that is juxtaposed to a purposeful both strategic and tactical blunder of the Afghanistan withdrawal where we saw in real time living humans clinging to and then dropping from C17s, billions of dollars of equipment left, American lives lost, then gaslit and told repeatedly that it was a success….nobody was held accountable…..then yes it rings hallow to me to hear and read the hyperbolic nature of the calls for a firing when nothing adverse happened. Disagree as you may, but that is my opinion
     
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    Bottom of a pint glass
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  6. gator_jo

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    Translation: Here's this guy's cell number. We're paying him 6 figures to answer if his brother's too drunk or hung over to pick up.


    “Phil Hegseth, one of a number of talented DHS liaisons to DOD, is conducting touch points with U.S. Coast Guard officials on the Secretary’s Indo-Pacific trip,” which includes stops in Hawaii, Guam, the Philippines and Japan...
     
  7. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Doesn't every Sec Def take their wives to security meetings and put their lerch brother on the payroll?

    MAGA - did I do it right?
     
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  8. gator_jo

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    Yes. Both of these actions are approved by DOGE as effective government cost-cutting measures. This should help enable them to do those top-bracket tax cuts we know are coming.
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    "Different spanks for different ranks." Many current and former military members disagree with you. Had lower ranked military members done the same thing, they would be immediately relieved from duty and likely face a court martial. How are these lower ranks supposed to feel when the admin won't even admit an error, and no punishments have been announced?
     
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  10. pogba

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    The continuous use of mistakes/blunders by another administration to justify true negligence from the current administration is so tiring. Why don’t people just expect the bare minimum of their elected government?

    Using signal for official communication at minimum circumvents the federal record keeping laws. If the only defense is “but Joe Biden…” (also egregious blunders on several occasions), your argument is a losing one.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    As i thought, Heggie has a higher Q rating in MAGA world so waltz will take the fall. keep the drunk and hsi brother/wife caretaker team .

    'He’ll be gone in a couple of weeks': Trump insiders predicting ouster over chat debacle

    With the furor over top Donald Trump officials participating in a Signal chat room discussing an attack on Yemen with journalist unintentionally invited to listen in not fading, some White House insiders are predicting an ouster is in the works.

    According to a report from Politico, on Wednesday White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles and Vice President J.D. Vance met with Trump in the Oval Office to counsel him on relieving national security adviser Mike Waltz of his duties for including The Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffery Goldberg to the participant list as well as his clumsy defense afterward.

    While there are calls from Democrats for Trump to fire Defense Secretary Pete Heghseth for blabbing details about the attack in Yemen on Houthi rebels before it happened, it appears that it is Waltz, a former GOP House member, who is on the hot seat with Trump.
     
  12. chemgator

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    A former intelligence officer explains why the Signal fiasco was not all that risky to the United States. He said it was only about as risky as leaving the nuclear codes in a Starbucks. Nice work, Trumpers! Making America Great Again through security violations!

    I'm a former intelligence official. The Signal fiasco was as risky as leaving the nuclear codes in a Starbucks.

     
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  13. PITBOSS

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    What a coincidence, that’s what Hegseth says to think. Regardless what everyone who ever worked in classified military gov or ops say. Also common sense on how bad this is - sharing sensitive info about a military attack before it happens, wantonly, with an outsider. Jeesk, no telling what secrets these loose cannons are unknowingly sharing with China or Russia by not following procedure. Like Hegseth bringing his wife into meetings regarding strategic issues with other countries.
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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    This is on point. The left is simply an incorrigible mess.

    Hillary Clinton Can Go Straight To Hell
    How depraved must a group of people be to have Hillary Clinton step forward as the person to speak out on this so-called “Signal scandal”? That’s like hiring OJ Simpson to be the spokesmodel for your battered women’s shelter or Bill Clinton to be your marriage counselor. Hell, considering it’s Hillary, it’s like having Jeffrey Epstein run your daycare center.

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    Of all the people on the left, no one else was available. No one? They had to go with the lady who set up a private, unsecured server to hand every bit of electronic communications she engaged in as Secretary of State – including A LOT of classified material – and hid it all from the government until an outside group discovered it? No one else could have a staffer type up the DNC talking points and pretend to be upset; it had to be Hillary.

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    Hillary LITERALLY only communicated on a server no one was told about or allowed to see, kept in her house and was wiped clean in an irreversible way so it could never, ever be determined if it had been hacked or not. You don’t pressure wash the inside of your windowless panel van with bleach unless you’re desperately trying to avoid anyone obtaining any evidence of something horrible that happened inside it. You don’t wipe a server for the same reason when simply unplugging it would prevent anyone from accessing the data while preserving it all to comply with the Presidential Records Act.

    It wasn’t just the server hypocrisy; it was the policy hypocrisy as well. Big Balls wrote, “In a dangerous and complex world, it’s not enough to be strong. You must also be smart. As secretary of state during the Obama administration, I argued for smart power, integrating the hard power of our military with the soft power of our diplomacy, development assistance, economic might, and cultural influence. None of those tools can do the job alone. Together, they make America a superpower. The Trump approach is dumb power.”
     
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  17. gator_jo

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    ^ Was it difficult for you to transition back to caring about communications on an unsecured channel?
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    Apparently HCDS (Hillary Clinton Derangement Syndrome) is a real thing.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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