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Did LBJ and the CIA have JFK assassinated?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by vegasfox, Jan 30, 2025.

  1. AgingGator

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    A few things here we know to be true.

    1) Oswald didn’t act alone
    2) Over the last 60 years those files have been scrubbed so clean you could wrap your raw veggies in them and be safe to eat
    3) After #1 and 2, do the files really matter?
     
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  2. GratefulGator

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    Prediction:
    There will be no smoking guns in the files.
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    Agree. The release of the JFK assassination files will probably be similar to Pam Bondi's release of the Epstein files.
     
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  4. vaxcardinal

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    Well I hope we find out who was in the grassy knoll because…well just because. This happened so long ago that it really doesn’t matter now
     
  5. GratefulGator

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    I disagree, but felt too nice to give bacon.
    I feel like it is relevant today because if certain factions in the Govt conspired, we would hopefully learn from that to prevent it from ever happening again.
    IMO, I believe there was a Govt conspiracy.
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    First batch of files released!

     
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  7. vegasfox

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  8. vegasfox

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    Motive?


    @RogerJStoneJr
    LYNDON JOHNSON HAD A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY ELEMENT INVOLVED IN THE JFK ASSASSINATION Lyndon Johnson was under investigation for two of the biggest scandals in American political history: the Bobby Baker scandal and the Billie Sol Estes scandal. The Senate hearings into Bobby Baker began on November 22, 1963. Johnson had also heard that Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy was telling people Johnson would be dropped from the 1964 ticket, prosecuted, and sent to prison. In fact, Drew Pearson, the most influential syndicated columnist at the time, had already written a column set to be published on November 23, 1963—the day after JFK’s assassination. In it, he accused Johnson of taking a massive bribe in exchange for securing a defense contract for General Dynamics. Lyndon Johnson was a man staring into the abyss. From his perspective, it was kill or be killed. Johnson had a unique relationship with every element involved in the assassination of JFK: As Senate Majority Leader, Johnson took the unusual step of appointing himself to the Subcommittee on Defense Appropriations, which oversaw the CIA’s secret black budget. In this role, he effectively became the CIA’s paymaster, overseeing its massive budget growth throughout the 1950s. Additionally, Lyndon Johnson’s next-door neighbor was FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. Hoover knew that in 1964, he would reach the mandatory retirement age, and the Kennedys intended to force him into retirement. However, that mandate could only be waived by the President of the United States. Johnson’s daughters both referred to Hoover as ‘Uncle Edgar,’ reflecting their close relationship—one strengthened by Johnson tripling the FBI’s budget in the 1950s. As far as the mob was concerned, Johnson was taking payoffs from Carlos Marcello to protect his illegal gambling operations in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. The bagman for these transactions was a man named Jack Halfen, who was later convicted of a minor crime. In an astonishing turn of events, he received a full presidential pardon on November 23, 1963. The banks made it clear to Johnson that they opposed a silver-backed dollar, which JFK had supported. Kennedy was also in conflict with the State of Israel. Israel sought to develop nuclear weapons, but Kennedy opposed the idea. After JFK’s assassination, President Lyndon Baines Johnson approved Israel’s pursuit of the nuclear bomb.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    I expect to be exonerated tomorrow.
     
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  10. gaterzfan

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    Didn’t Biden issue a post-hummus preventive pardon for LBJ??
     
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  11. tampajack1

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    Trump lives for terrible.
     
  12. GratefulGator

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    The connections of LBJ to JFK assassination is compelling. Can you speak a little bit about what you know about the Zapata Oil connection which includes then Senator, CIA director and future President G.H.W. Bush and his good buddy, Alan Dulles?
     
  13. vegasfox

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    I could post Grok 3's detailed analysis of the JFK Files but it might piss off a mod. Not super long but pretty long. Here's Grok's conclusion @vaxcardinal

    Conclusion (by Grok)
    The new players—Russo as the mafia’s enforcer and Petrov as the Soviet-Cuban handler—expand the conspiracy’s scope beyond public figures like Marcello or the CIA’s generic involvement. The 1958 surveillance timeline reveals Oswald as a long-term asset gone rogue or exploited, while financial trails and cover-up motives tie personal gain (LBJ, mafia) to geopolitical stakes (CIA, Soviet-Cuban interests). Together, these elements from all 31,419 pages reinforce my guess: a LBJ-led plot with CIA planning, mafia execution, and Petrov’s foreign backing, using Oswald as the fall guy.
     
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  14. vegasfox

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    Interesting document from the JFK Files has a CIA-connected man named Gary Underhill telling friends on the day after Kennedy was killed that a small clique inside the CIA was responsible for the assassination. Underhill feared for his life. 6 months later he was found dead (supposedly by suicide). Underhill was shot behind his left ear. He was right-handed. He had been scheduled to meet with Louisiana DA Jim Garrison, who was investigating the assassination.
     
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  15. vegasfox

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    Interesting if true
     
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  16. vegasfox

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    Looks like JFK Jr told Biden he was a traitor
     
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  17. vegasfox

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    @cocodrilo might be able to help you out. (You know more than me)
     
  18. vegasfox

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    Unbelievable if true
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    To no one’s surprise …

     
  20. vegasfox

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    Interesting