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Trump says it's illegal to refuse to buy a Tesla car

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Mar 11, 2025 at 9:46 AM.

  1. Tjgators

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    Doubt I'll ever own an electric car. Maybe a hybrid. I like to travel and tow my boat. The Tesla truck could not be uglier. I don't understand people purchasing them. They are all over Tampa. Many of my democrat friends drive Teslas. They shouldn't have to worry about other Democrats trying to ruin their vehicles.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    status symbol..says look at me, Im stupid but a great follower

    new batteries are going to change everything. 500 - 700 mile range will have energy to tow for shorter distances so will work for me then. guessing 3 - 5 years. honda mass producing first production line solid state batteries now. so many other battery tech advances in the pipeline. just a matter of time between new energy sources and new battery and material tech that the ICE will be a thing of the past

    ‘Game Changer’: Honda Solid-State EVs With 620 Miles Of Range Coming This Decade
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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  4. channingcrowderhungry

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    To be on the safe side I went and bought a Tesla today because I didn't want to do anything illegal. Can never be too safe.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    I was on my way to buy a Cybertruck but George Soros stopped me and threatened to stop sending me checks
     
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  6. demosthenes

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    I have a Rivian and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Can tow, I don’t stop at gas stations anymore since I just plug in at my garage, no oil changes, and my car goes 0-60 in 3 seconds. To each their own.
     
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  7. ThePlayer

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    Think again.
    Biden had what the New York Times reports were the “highest sustained levels of federal spending since World War II”; he increased vaccine hesitancy by insulting the unvaccinated; at a time when the threat from China is rising, he sent Congress a budget that actually cut defense spending after inflation; and he told Putin that 16 areas of the United States’ critical infrastructure were off-limits to Russian cyberattacks — which effectively told the Russian leader that the rest were not.

    1. His withdrawal from Afghanistan was the most shameful foreign policy calamity in my lifetime.
    2. He failed to deliver on his promise to put his “whole soul” into uniting the country. Biden threatened to veto his own bipartisan infrastructure bill, then went to Capitol Hill and urged members of his own party to take it hostage as leverage to pass Build Back Better. He failed to pass any other major pieces of bipartisan legislation, allowing himself to be captured by his party’s radical left wing.
    3. His $1.9 trillion in social spending disguised as “covid-19 relief” helped unleash inflation and extreme labor shortages. This was the worst fiscal policy mistake in decades, passed with Democratic votes alone.
    4. He unleashed the worst border crisis in US history. US Customs and Border Protection reported more than 1.7 million encounters with illegal migrants at the southern border, nearly four times the number the year before, the highest annual total on recordincluding 378,000 who were not from Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador or Guatemala. Seizures of deadly fentanyl more than doubled in 2021, and the drug is closely connected to a surge in overdose deaths, which reached a historic high.
    5. He showed weakness in the face of Russian aggression against Ukraine.
    the same emissions as domestically produced oil. It’s like the 1970s all over again.
    6. He greenlighted Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Germany. Then Biden inappropriately pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to accept Russian energy dominance over his country. Democrats impeached President Donald Trump for far less.
    7. His war on fossil fuels helped drive domestic production down and gasoline prices through the roof. Then he begged the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) — a foreign oil cartel — to produce more oil, which will result in the same emissions as domestically produced oil. It’s like the 1970s all over again.
     
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  8. gatorrob87

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    So when can we expect the government bailout of Tesla? Will it be part of the newer green deal, just less green, but better green deal?
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

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    Nice copy paste.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    1. Trump negotiated the Afghanistan withdrawal, and didn't include the provisional Afghani government in the negotiations. Biden was set up to fail, and even with a 3-month extension from the original Trump deadline, Biden didn't have enough time to succeed completely. With that said, Biden did evacuate about 98% of everyone wanting to leave, with unfortunate, but minimal loss of life. I'd say the entire Second Gulf War was much more shameful too.

    2. It's the nature of our two-party system. The party not in power becomes the party of "No." And the party in power swings farther away from the middle.

    3. The labor shortage was global, and due to the fact that we lost an unusual number of people in their prime earning ages to COVID; over 200,000. We also saw an unprecedented number of people in the upper range of this demographic retire, because early retirement was better than death. The result was globally, 2022 saw the worst global inflation in four decades. And here in the US, we were in the middle of the inflation pack, with the majority of the western world suffering higher inflation than the US. To blame spending just doesn't make sense. The Trump/Biden spending bills did likely add to inflation, but less than half of the inflation we endured. And the spending helped keep the economy going. The US was one major economic power that didn't suffer a recession post COVID.

    4. The 1980s saw a rise in undocumented immigration. So much so that in 1986, Reagan gave out amnesty to millions. To say Biden saw 4X an increase in 2022 isn't fair, because 2020 and 2021 saw a huge reduction because of COVID. Compare 2022 to 2019. It's only about a 2X rise. And if you amortized the averages, and assume many immigrants were scared to leave their homes in 2020 and 2021, and without COVID, we likely would have seen slow growth in undocumented immigrants versus a dip and spike in 2022.

    But why let facts get in the way of a good rant. It's all about Trump Musk Fascism now. Speak out against the government even with a legal green card? Get deported. A Senator vet with an impeccable record disagrees with our foreign policy? He gets labeled a traitor! And protest and boycott Tesla? That's now illegal!
     
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  11. demosthenes

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  12. HeyItsMe

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    There’s no doubt that the RT1 craps all over the Cybertruck, which is more a monster on the spec sheet but utter trash in actually real life usage. When we finally make the decision to go fully electric, that would probably be our vehicle. Rivian makes some very formidable trucks and SUVs.
     
  13. homer

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    Rivian vs Tesla? What to do? lol

    Every time my wife and I see a Tesla truck we start laughing.

    And,,,,,,, we drive a 2015 4 cylinder Nissan Rogue with about 80K miles on it.
     
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  14. orangeblue_coop

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    Recession on deck and the nations leader is working hard, trying to help the richest man in the world aka his #1 political donor and his struggling car company move some units. What a time to be alive.
     
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  15. chemgator

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    As opposed to "legally and randomly" boycotting Tesla? Does Trump even know what a boycott is, or is he that stupid?
     
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  18. gator_jo

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    ^ Willing to bet Fat Don didn't try to squeeze his obese frame in ....
     
  19. GatorBen

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    That’s actually a kind of nuanced question.

    If you look only at the statutory text, there’s an easy answer: the Sherman Act - two people agreeing amongst themselves not to do business with a third is unquestionably a conspiracy in restraint of trade.

    It gets more nuanced when you turn to the judicial gloss on antitrust law though, and that judicial gloss is what protects political boycotts by individual consumers.

    The law is not read as criminalizing some kinds of boycotts (political boycotts by non-commercial actors, like consumers deciding not to buy Nikes to protest child labor in the 90s), some are in a grey area that’s a current subject of hot dispute (primarily politically motivated boycotts by commercial actors with identifiable commercial impacts, like some ESG programs), and some are flatly illegal (commercial “group” boycotts, like numerous retailers agreeing amongst themselves not to buy from a wholesaler in an attempt to force the wholesaler out of the market).
     
  20. gator_jo

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    Kind of embarrassing for the POTUS to be shilling for a particular brand like he's some cheap huckster or carnival barker.

    Oh, wait ......

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