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Measles Outbreak in a Texas Low Vax County

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Feb 9, 2025.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Ironically, it is Trump, first and foremost who has championed the vaccine and Democrats on the board are likely the most Trump-compliant.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    This is so wrong.

    When you don’t follow the basic principles of medicine and science. You lose trust. When you tell an entire population to take a new drug and they are at little to no risk to the disease. You lose trust.

    It has nothing to do with politics. Most pubs and dems took the shot. Most people understand the CDC is a joke now and have trust issues with it. As they should.

    Both sides have their skeptics. Now it has just expanded because the idiots at the CDC failed to follow basic medicine and science.
     
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  4. Gator515151

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    I've got an old high school buddy that worked for the CDC in Atlanta for over 30 years before retiring. During the Covid scare he was the most anti vax guy I know. I always wondered what Bob knew that the rest of us didn't know? That said I got all my vaxes and boosters, but when Bob would post his anti vax shit online I just ignored it.
     
  5. PacificBlueGator

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    All of the safety and efficacy data for the mRNA vaccines are publicly available in the FDA and CDC websites, as the pharmacovigilance data are for any new drug approved today. You just have to look, for example COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Surveillance. You can also find the summary reviews that formed the basis for approval. I can point you to these if you would like. Based on the safety and efficacy reviews, the benefit far outweighed the risk for the vaccines, which is what regulators base their decision on for approval of any drug or vaccine.

    Instead of reading these sources of information, along with numerous peer review articles on the effectiveness of the vaccines to reduce hospitalizations and deaths, you continually make misinformed statements about the vaccines. If you want to debate, inform yourself, otherwise it just comes off as your bias against govt information because of your politics. I can tell because I've been developing drugs for the past 30 years and you do not know what you are talking about.
     
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  6. slayerxing

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    I know a lot of microbiologists and biochemists, some of whom have gone on to be administrators and some different non-vaccine related scientific roles and politically gone far into left field on vaccine technology, especially after COVID, and don't actually know a lot about vaccines. Those that have gone into viral stuff, and then often into different vaccine methodologies just know so much more - and so often the divide even in the scientific community on stuff like this is the dunning-kruger effect. Some of these legitimately smart people just think they know more than they actually do.
     
  7. QGator2414

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    I am sure there were a lot of people at the cdc that knew something was wrong. I also think many did not see the reason to question based on their position and listened to what the cdc said.

    I don’t know what you now. I would blow it up and start from scratch as it is not just the public that does not trust the cdc. Doctors no longer trust it…
     
  8. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    Pfizer/Moderna appreciate you.

    The taxpayer on the other hand was fleeced by theses shots. And honestly we can stop calling the mRNA shots a vaccine now. It certainly is not going to help get people to jab their 6 month old as the cdc still suggests.

    Maybe have Pfizer/Moderna run rct’s on the boosters with some of the billions we gave given them and prove the benefits outweigh the risks. But we don’t. And we won’t. Instead our cdc will recommend a healthy young person as young as 6 months take a shot they do not need and we know has safety concerns now.

    There is a reason doctors are not listening to the cdc anymore when it comes to the idiotic covid guidance they are still putting out.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    “safe and effective”

     
  10. duggers_dad

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    Am I having too much fun ?

     
  11. AzCatFan

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    Can you even explain the difference between the active mechanism of a traditional vaccine versus an mRNA vaccine? And why should we listen to a dental front office manager on these concerns?
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    I’ve already mentioned how two friends contracted GBS from vaccines as reported by their physicians. One was bed-ridden for a year, the other still in therapy.

    In the category of things that make me go “hmmm” …

    A seemingly healthy friend in her 60s was virtually crippled with blood clots in her lungs. On regaining the ability to move she had to wheel around an oxygen tank for months.

    And in late 2021 a neighbor died suddenly and unexpectedly. Her daughter explained that her mother was beset with sudden and progressive paralysis that her doctors were never able to explain.

    Yes, the latter two are anecdotes. Sorry, not sorry. Consider it karmic payback for every death was Covid for two years.
     
  13. QGator2414

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    If you want to keep jabbing yourself and kids to put a spike in your/their body to react for a strain that is no longer in circulation. Go for it. Not worth the inflammation and harm especially for your kids.

    You will have a much better chance of getting something out of the flu shot and the guess they make each year.
     
  14. WC53

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    Measles aren’t real.
    Neither was the plague.
    Vaccines not vampires suck
    Moon landing was fake
    Sandy hook was fake
    Nukes are fake
    Putin great
    Trump great

    That should about cover it
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    Rash and fever are real but not a virus.

    Vaccines wholly unnecessary as there is no scientific evidence for anything to vaccinate for.

    I have no reason to believe the Moon landing was hoaxed, ditto Sandy Hook.

    Nuclear weapons can have immense destructive effects.

    One can be scientifically-grounded, nuanced in thinking and neither Trump nor Putin-deranged all at the same time. As for others ?
     
  16. AzCatFan

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    What's the functional difference between how are traditional vaccine works and how a mRNA vaccine works. Let's start there, Mr Know-it-all Expert.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    I know you didn’t ask me, but one contains eye of newt and the other wool of bat.
     
  18. QGator2414

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    Go take and give your kids a shot they don’t need that will be designed to put the body to work for a spike no longer in circulation. It is the antithesis of medicine and science. And it is why doctors do not listen to the idiots at the cdc for guidance on the covid shot anymore.
     
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  19. PacificBlueGator

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    I really have no idea what you base your opinions on. The mRNA vaccines have been extremely effective and safe by all measures and the evidence documented in submissions and publications.

    I can direct you to the sources that FDA, and all other regulatory agencies made their evaluation and decisions on. All the preclinical, CMC, and clinical studies, in addition to the real world evidence for the vaccines. You can choose to ignore the information or educate yourself. Up to you.
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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