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Another Space X Failure— where is DOGE?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:50 AM.

  1. duchen

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  3. WarDamnGator

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    Biden was right to not trust him to bring back those astronauts…. Profit over safety. Too bad the Musk administration is going to order them to get on board one.
     
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  4. duchen

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    Four airports were grounded in Florida because of this failure. Will cost the airlines money and inconvenienced the public. Another failure. And it was announced that SpaceX- not the FAA will investigate the cause.
     
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    The previous failed Starship launch is still under investigation raising the question why did the FAA consent to the second launch? Maybe it's just me but it looks like another example of Elon receiving a return on his $277 million investment in the 2024 campaign.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    NASA planned to put men on Mars in 1990.

    2025 and we’re still puddle-jumping.
     
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  7. duchen

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    We quit the space program because it was wasteful spending in the 1970s. Then we shifted to the shuttle and space station programs. If things are so bad that we need to cut the budget big time, SpaceX should not be immune.
     
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    Which has what to do with Space X's exploding rocket?
     
  9. danmanne65

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    I watched the spacex coverage yesterday. Musk’s name was never mentioned. I wonder though without his focus is there an issue with the process. Henry Ford was an innovator even if he was a Nazi sympathizer. Musk needs to focus on what he does best and stop being a toady to the Trump agenda.
     
  10. Emmitto

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    Space X doesn't need Musk other than his money. He isn't designing rockets or ships. He needs to pay them and stay out of the way.

    Being a Trump toady actually IS his inherent strength. That's why that's all he does now. He has finally found his lane.
     
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    I’ve gone on record as stating that Musk is a big ol’ welfare queen.
     
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    We’re still struggle to get past low earth orbit. Jeff Bezo’s Blue Origin is like a rocket powered balloon.
     
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  13. RealGatorFan

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    Space is 50 years ahead of NASA was in their timeline. The things SpaceX is doing today NASA only dreamed about. The cost alone is less than 10% of what NASA spent just on one shuttle flight.

    Look at it this way, SpaceX on average with the Falcon 9 costs $67 million per launch. That's planning and materials from start to finish. NASA though, heh cost more to launch the space shuttle just one time than SpaceX has cost in their entire inception. The average cost of launching the SLS was $2 billion making the entire program just shy of $200 billion. Let's put this in even more perspective - both shuttle disasters cost NASA over $5 billion and we aren't counting the lost of lives which are priceless. The cost so far to SpaceX - $277 million. Even better, the costs are decreasing with each test flight. The space shuttle however grew exponentially over the course of the program's life.
     
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    Oh the heavy rocket costs $100 million to launch, still far far cheaper than $2B to launch the shuttle.
     
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  15. G8tas

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    You're not comparing apples to apples. We would not be where we are now without the billions and most likely trillions of dollars investment from NASA, RSA and ESA. SpaceX would not exist if it weren't for NASA. Is it cheaper now? Of course, but that's what happens with innovation.
     
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    NASA never committed nor did the government; to putting men on Mars by the 90s… What you are trying to reference, badly, is Mars Direct published in 1990. A research paper that Bush kind of supported before peer review and NASA researchers posed many questions about the viability of the proposal.

    Mars Direct was proposed by Robert Zubrin. He was an astrophysicist that worked in the private sector and writer.
     
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    Yeah, we could say that about anything. Chinese TV maker HiSense is 60 years ahead of where RCA was in the 60s…. Yeah… that really tells the whole story…. :rolleyes:
     
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    And no one dies when Elon Musk tests these NEW ROCKETS.
     
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  20. G8tas

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    That's my point. NASA has invested and incalculable amount of money towards an invasion and continues to invest in innovation. The government invests in areas that the private industry would never consider. As a result, SpaceX has been able to build on that and profit from it. It doesn't make SpaceX better though