Another Alaska Airlines incident

Yes. Had a long layover on the way to Nepal, so took advantage of the airside hotel for a place to catch a nap and chill. Also had a Singapore Sling to drink just because.

 

perhaps because it was a Saturday morning at 9 am for us in the winter

best thing about air canada is their frequent flier program. they get some of the best redemption rates for transatlantic business class for us poor schleps that can't afford the cash value for those seats, especially on Swiss AIrways, with low taxes, somethign I hate about LHR

Also great value for business flights to Patagonia and New Zealand. 1 and 1 A on the bucket list for spring 26

How To Find Aeroplan Award Flights In 2024 (9 Sweet Spots) | AwardFares Blog

 

yeah, those oil subsidized ME lounges don't count though

 

United has a turn with a near-disaster on a Boeing 787 flight from Nigeria to the U.S. The plane slowed down from 500 knots to 40 knots (is this even possible?) suddenly, which caused several people to be hospitalized. The airline called it an "unexpected aircraft movement".

I thought if you slowed down in a jet airplane that much, you would either have an engine stall or a wing stall, either of which could easily lead to a crash.

Multiple injuries as United Airlines flight from Nigeria to the US forced to turn back after 'unexpected aircraft movement'

 

The Crowne Plaza across from the airport is pretty nice, when it's not under construction.

One time (20+ years ago), I stayed in a hotel in the actual airport in Singapore, and it was kinda sad. The room was barely big enough for a twin bed, and the bathroom was small with Formica countertops. There was no night light, so you had to feel your way in the dark.

 

sounds like they lost power. you can lose speed, if you have altitude to lose, or strong headwinds for liftnand stay aloft. injusries would be consistent with a dive required to maintain lift while you restart..

the loss in speed happened 2x. occams razr says fuel supply problems, leaving Nigeria. either that or sabotage in the cabin

 

40 sounds like a misprint. maybe forward speed was reduced while in a dive with loss of power.

sounds like it went into a dive but have to think 40 is a misprint. not sure it could pull out of that kind of dive

found a cool link for av geeks


Aircraft Performance Database > B748

 

not in a 787
this says 258 kph stall speed

787 | Aeronautica Wiki | Fandom


it would take 210 knot headwind to avoid stall speed which is possible. just read about multiple planes topping 800 MPH using strong jet stream lately. cuts that time to london, makes it longer, more expensive comin back. they actually reroute daily based on jet stream totally OT

Transatlantic flights flew over 800 mph after freezing weather juiced the jet stream

 

i linked to a 787 originally and changed the link when I realized my mistake. hopefully not a mechanicla issue indicative of another problem. boeing can't take another hit right now. jet production dropped throught he floor last year and retiements ahve crushed the industry in general. it's why plane ticket prices are going up. boeing and airbus can't make palnes fast enough

 

One of my brothers works for Alaska. I should ask him if he’s heard about their plane deliveries (as another 100% Boeing airline). Last week he told me Alaska isn’t hiring any new pilots as they consider themselves overstaffed (I think it will be about a 1.5 year window of no new pilots for them). It’s frustrating since their flights are so filled I don’t get the upgrades I used to get.

 

Airbus and Boeing Report December Commercial Aircraft Orders and Deliveries - Flight Plan
Boeing was having supply problems before the pandemic. Throw in early or planned retirement during covid, the door blowout...and their production has dropped significantly. Looks like they are struggling to get to precovid numbers still

 

In other airplane news, Airbus is getting serious about using multi-level seating, where every other row is raised up by two steps, or about 16". This allows people on the lower rows to smell the farts of those sitting in front of them from a few inches away, and it allows those the upper rows to smell every odor that rises to the top of the cabin. It also appears to get rid of overhead luggage storage, and creates a nice stumbling hazard for those stepping down from the upper level. the inventor says it would only be done in the center section of a jumbo jet with regular seating near the window seats.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/11/...-double-level-airplane-seat-design/index.html

 

If they could stack passengers like cord wood they would do it.

 

This looks like a terrible idea for any country not used to packing in like sardines in mass transit.

 

Delta's regional airline Endeavor has their own minor disaster in Toronto with a CRJ-900 that flipped over during landing. No one was killed, but a few were critically injured. Somehow, the plane lost a wing. There were 40 mph wind gusts in the area. Wake turbulence from a flight landing ahead of it might have been a factor.

Delta Airlines plane flips on landing in Toronto and a badly hurt child is among 19 injured

It reminded me of an incident in 2008 with a Lear-45 jet flying the Mexican vice-President into Mexico City, as reported on the Smithsonian Channel's Airplane Disasters show. It was flying too close behind a Boeing 767 in the landing pattern. Oddly enough, a lack of winds made the wake turbulence much worse, because winds break up the swirling vortices of the turbulence. The plane flipped upside down as it made a turn to approach the runway, and the pilot was able to get it upright again, but had lost so much altitude that it crashed into the financial district of Mexico City, killing everyone on board. It turned out that the pilots were charlatans, and almost everything about their training was faked, so they had no idea what they were doing.

2008 Mexico City Learjet crash - Wikipedia.

 

Here is a video of the Delta flight crashing in Toronto. The plane appeared to land almost normally, but a little hard on impact. The landing gear might have collapsed, and the fuel tanks might have ruptured when the belly of the plane hit the runway. There is a big fireball trailing the plane, and the right wing breaks off at some point, causing the plane to flip upside-down. It will be interesting to see what the final conclusion is on the cause of the crash.

How a Delta flight crash-landed and flipped over in Toronto