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Germany's Days as an Industrial Power are Coming to an End

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Feb 10, 2024.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    What's happening in Germany is a microcosm of what the Dems had in-store of the U.S.A. The true "reset" was to totally destroy America as we know it so that these NWO/Globalists can "reimagine" this land in their communist subjugated way.

    All the communist/DEI/ESG/TRANNY crap coming out of the USAID audit is crazy, and that's not even the big money fraud. More to come, and I'll bet real money that the IRS is in the business of handing out cash to NGOs too.
     
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    The Germans had no choice. They do not have any good energy source--no coal, no oil, no gas. They have wind and some sunlight. They had nuclear power, but Fukishima scared them into closing down their few remaining nuclear plants. They have done an excellent job on limiting their dependence on imported fossil fuels through taxes, which limits the damage to their economy when supply gets scarce.

    The U.S. has the option of drilling for oil & gas, or preserving those natural resources for future generations. People without many brain cells tend to prefer to see the natural resources used up as quickly as possible, with no regard for what this does to future generations.

    Finally, your remark that Dems in the White House had the same policies as Germany has had just doesn't hold water. The U.S. under Biden was producing more oil & gas than it ever did before.
     
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    I don't think this is true. Bill Clinton proved that when you export the manufacturing jobs overseas, the engineering jobs eventually follow. Clinton thought that he could send the manufacturing over to China, and the U.S. would design products and processes. China said "to hell with that--we're stealing your jobs, your technology, and your engineering". Basically, there is no such thing as intellectual property protection in China--if they can reverse-engineer it, they can steal it. China has invested huge amounts of money in developing universities to provide them with a steady supply of engineers to make things happen.

    Germany graduates 40,000 engineers every year. China graduates 1.5 - 1.6 million, or about forty times as much. In fact, China graduates more engineers and computer scientists than the rest of the world combined.

    Insulating Ourselves From Chinese Talent Will Stifle American Industry.
     
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    Trump warned then in 2017 to buy American LNG, and they chose to buy the Russian natural gas. But they had coal and nuclear plants already running, and Merkel decided that they needed to go green.

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    Wow! Not even close. Germany had coal in the 1800's and early 1900's in the Ruhr Valley region. Not sure what that has to do with 2025. I toured the last open coal mine in Germany in 2011 just before it closed. Germany was running out of coal long before then. You cannot dig out ALL of the coal from a region or the towns and cities above the coal deposits will collapse. Most coal deposits are only a narrow seam about 3-4' high.

    Nuclear power never produced much more than 25% of Germany's electricity needs with the 17 nuclear power plants. Eight of those plants were shut down after Fukushima. They still use nuclear power, except it is not made in Germany. They import power from the Czech Republic. France has 18 nuclear power plants with 57 reactors for 75% of the population of Germany (and much less industry), generating 65-70% of France's power.

    Nuclear Power in Germany - World Nuclear Association
     
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    Yeah, they had their own power and yes, coal was one of the fossil fuels they used. They stopped using it because of the Green New Deal crap that China loves for all countries to implement to self implode.

    Yeah, I am MORE than partly right. You, like all communist Dems for China, are misrepresenting the truth.

    It figures you would want to die on the hill of percentages... missed the point. They had enohgn of theior own power with the help of Russians LNG, and now they do NOT have enough power to expand...