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President Musk Lies about USAID and Says it "Must Die"

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_jo, Feb 2, 2025 at 4:15 PM.

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  2. gator_jo

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    I almost never respond to that guy you quoted. But the US spends appx $45-50 billion/year on foreign aid - appx 1% of the federal budget. Nominally the most in the world, proportionately far from the highest among developed nations.

    There are really two issues going on here, as usual the Trumper you quoted just wants to deflect or obfuscate. But;

    1) Will cancelling all US foreign aid really help us long-term? It's pretty easy to argue otherwise, for quite a number of reasons. It's hardly "saving" anything.


    2) What kind of people allow some non-elected vile scumbag lackey to a literal criminal to ....... publicly call career public servants part of a "criminal organization"?

    It's only a difference in scale, but that's like publicly calling the Army, the Navy, the Dept of Agriculture, a ..... "criminal organization."


    What kind of sycophantic low-rent citizen voters just sit by and watch that happen without even a single word of condemnation?

    Those people disgusted me when they voted for a criminal rapist. And they're only adding to it. Have you no sense of decency, Trumpers?
     
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    Congress sets the budget and allocates funding for USAID. They determine how much goes to each of the 4 main categories.

    After the funds are allocated, Congress and the Executive are to jointly decide how funds will be disbursed -- there is a process for that.

    Last I knew, there is still a Congress. It is unconstitutional for the Exec branch to wipe out funding it disagrees with. Mr. Art of the Deal obviously does not care to sit down and negotiate, and Muskrat is going very rogue here.

    Nothing to be whooping and hollering about if you care about your democratic republic.
     
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  5. OklahomaGator

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    My understanding is that nothing has been cut, but payments are under a 90 day freeze.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-foreign-aid-9f5336e84c45a6e782fa95f60a919f47
     
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  6. vegasfox

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    USAID is a criminal organization.
     
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  7. dynogator

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    Should you preface your comment with an "IMHO," or do you have proof of criminality?
     
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    Clearly the " christian" thing to do, dump anyone who might need our help.
     
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  9. SotaGator

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    And the strategy is probably to slow-walk remaining expenditures until budget negotiations for the upcoming fiscal deadline.
    If these folks cannot get a 2025 budget passed and signed off on by March 14, there will absolutely be a government shutdown.
     
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    a 90 day pause can have significant impacts. And this trump admin appears chaotic. Are they actually going to come back in 90 days with a concise plan?


    “Many of the programs will cease to be effective if they're not consistent. If a medical clinic closes, infectious diseases can spread quickly. If security guards don't show up at a Syrian refugee camp because they've been told not to, it leaves an opening for local thugs to step in. "We stop work all the time as a result of the ends of contracts or the ends of our grant agreements," says the head of one aid organization. "So there's an orderly way of reinvesting U.S. foreign assistance. It's just not this.

    It decided to obey the order, wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of perishable food. Another is figuring out whether to close health clinics for pregnant mothers in Haiti, leaving them with scant alternatives for a place to give birth.“


    Inside the Chaos and Heartbreak of Trump's Foreign-Aid Freeze


    U.S. aid agency is in upheaval during foreign assistance freeze and staff departures
     
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    Are payments to Space X frozen?
     
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    The evidence is overwhelming. For example, USAID helped the people growing heroin in Afghanistan build irrigation systems.

    The Biden State Department told the Taliban to keep the heroin flowing to the world.

    The State Dept and CIA give money to USAID to "get things done."

    Bush, the Clinton's and Bidens were all dirty. One reason they hate Trump is he is going to clean house. The cockroaches are scurrying. You Democrats should be supporting Trump
     
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  13. vegasfox

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    Mike Benz (State Dept employee under Trump) says USAID controls Mexico's internal politics by working with narco-traffickers. Probably same thing going on in Columbia.
    George Soros was said to be very upset when El Salvador's president Bukele threw huge numbers of drug dealers in jail.

    Thank Trump and Elon for what they're doing. No wonder many in the Deep State would like to see them dead.
     
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    USAID finances the pipelining of illegals into the US.
     
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    good point. That’s what’s worrisome, what gets cut and what will get more funding.
     
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    USAID does dirty work for the CIA
     
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    Where are you getting your "evidence," from? How about some links?
     
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    Former State Dept employee Mike Benz:
     
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    More from Mike Benz: