Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

New CIA Director: Evidence Didn't Support Brennan's Explosive Trump-Russia Assessment

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Feb 1, 2025.

  1. Feb 1, 2025 #1
    okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    11,452
    1,526
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    In a pre-hearing questionnaire obtained by RealClearInvestigations, Senate Democrats asked Ratcliffe, “Do you agree with the ICA’s judgments,” specifically that “Putin’s goals in influencing the 2016 presidential election included ‘denigrat[ing] Secretary Clinton, and harm[ing] her electability and potential presidency’ ”? They also asked Ratcliffe if he concurred with the ICA’s finding that "Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump.”

    Ratcliffe answered that after reviewing the ICA’s underlying intel, including sources and methods, he could only agree that “Russia’s goal was to undermine confidence in U.S. democratic institutions and sow division among the American people,” according to page 38 of the document.

    He noted that “Russian social media campaigns included efforts to both support and criticize candidate Trump as well as candidate Clinton, further suggesting an overarching goal of promoting discord.” In other words, he saw no concrete evidence to support a plot by Putin to side with Trump against Clinton. In the questionnaire, Ratcliffe also pointed out that Moscow has “long used” propaganda, disinformation, and cyberattacks to target not only U.S. elections but also those in other Western democracies, implying its 2016 influence operation was nothing new.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations...xplosive_trump-russia_assessment_1088238.html

    ----------------------

    Obviously, none of this is a surprise, but it is still extremely alarming that we had such a robust operation at the top levels of our government to disenfranchise the political threat that was Donald J. Trump. The media was complicit, knowing full well Moscow attempting to play a role in our elections has been going on since the Stalin era.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. Feb 1, 2025 #2
    Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    90,026
    27,112
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    It was all a Clinton/DNC/Obama invention. Uranium One... subterfuge, distraction and attempted coupe.
     
  3. Feb 1, 2025 #3
    GatorFanCF

    GatorFanCF Premium Member

    5,414
    1,077
    1,968
    Apr 14, 2007
    Shocked! You mean to say folks had a predetermined, may I say "prejudged," agenda and ran with the part that fit their worldview?

    Theatre - it's all theatre. And, a bored and purposeless people eat it up so that we're offered nonsense like "Could this be the worst week 2 of any President?" to the 10th power, leveraged by social media, bots; and, yes, other nation states because....we must know this second how some basketball player or actor feels about POTUS and something he said.

    It's the new bread and circus routine from Rome. Enjoy the rancor, if you will.
     
  4. Feb 1, 2025 #4
    mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    17,119
    2,193
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    On the one hand, you have Donald Trump's handpicked lackey saying what Donald Trump wants to hear. On the other hand, you have both the intelligence community with "high confidence" and the unanimous finding of the Senate Intelligence Committee, whose majority was actually Republican at the time. Tough to figure out who to believe in this instance.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...rms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  5. Feb 1, 2025 #5
    VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    22,954
    1,930
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    Seems to be a prime example of the winner writing or more accurately re-writing history. Color me skeptical but I do not trust anything from Trump or any one of his appointees.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  6. Feb 1, 2025 #6
    citygator

    citygator VIP Member

    13,540
    2,823
    3,303
    Apr 3, 2007
    Charlotte
    Need and “understatement” emoji.
     
  7. Feb 1, 2025 #7
    WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    11,499
    1,433
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    When I first read that line I thought I was reading a post from a Trump hater until I looked to the left and saw your name. Think about it. The new CIA director is a Trump picked "loyalty oath" guy saying what he's being paid to say...
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  8. Feb 1, 2025 #8
    GatorFanCF

    GatorFanCF Premium Member

    5,414
    1,077
    1,968
    Apr 14, 2007
    So you agree it works both ways? Or, are you going with the gatorjo narrative that everything and anything that goes bad in this world is the fault of Trump?
     
  9. Feb 1, 2025 #9
    ridgetop

    ridgetop GC Hall of Fame

    2,273
    765
    1,848
    Aug 4, 2020
    Top of the ridge
    No no no
    Only TRUMP appointed people would lie cheat and cover up.. no one in Bidens admin would lie (say about Bidens cognitive ability) cover up, or cheat. No way a dem would do that..
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. Feb 1, 2025 #10
    Norcaligator

    Norcaligator GC Hall of Fame

    1,187
    154
    288
    Sep 21, 2007
    So you know its a lie but don't care cause "Biden" - got it.
     
  11. Feb 1, 2025 #11
    ridgetop

    ridgetop GC Hall of Fame

    2,273
    765
    1,848
    Aug 4, 2020
    Top of the ridge
    I don’t know anything.. all I know is the people on here acting like both sides don’t deal in lies, cover ups and misinformation are hypocrites or rubes. It’s all crap. Big piles of crap.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Feb 2, 2025 #12
    GatorFanCF

    GatorFanCF Premium Member

    5,414
    1,077
    1,968
    Apr 14, 2007
    Ten times the number of journalists say they are Democrats vs Republicans (36% to 3.4%) - most claim to be Independents.
    https://www.theamericanjournalist.org/post/american-journalist-findings

    Why does the Left hate diversity (of opinion?) These Right leaning media minorities deserve a voice. DEI for perspective. Or, do your own arguments fall flat?
     
    • Winner Winner x 1