Illegal immigration and DEI

What's funny to me is that 'DEI' was basically operating without anyone (normal) caring the whole of the first Trump presidency when we had the "greatest economy in the history of the world" or something. Then 2020 broke people's brains and someone tearing down a confederate statue somewhere or having a Pride night became DEI, and that is why eggs cost too much.

 

Sounds like a guilty conscience to me. Assuming you even have one. If you'd paid attention to posts on this topic, there have been plenty of criticisms of DEI and its efficacy coming from people who disagree with you.

 

Dude, I have no agenda in pushing DEI. I'm just trying to help you see the inherent fallacy in everyone slamming a diverse hire as inferior.

I'm a hiring manager in tech/software. I've hired white people, black people, brown people, you name it. Men, women, (children?). American, Indian, Irish, Ecuadorian, Venezuelan, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Australian, Chinese, Malaysian. There are plenty of capable people in all shapes/sizes/colors/backgrounds.

 

If my house was on fire, and the person at the door was a fireman? Then no. They are here to help.

The situation often dictates intent. And you can't assume everyone coming here undocumented wants to harm you. Especially when the data shows otherwise. Again, if so many immigrants came here to hurt you, why did murder rates fall all four years under Biden?

That's not saying everyone here is coming to work and do jobs others won't do. There's are criminals among the undocumented, and ones that commit crimes here. But instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, if we had a guest worker program where all immigrants who wanted to work had to register, we would have better knowledge of who is here.

As for DEI, it's the new name for Affirmative Action. Not all persons get an equal education, or have equal opportunity to learn. But like the law school study showed, given the opportunity, many will be able to succeed.

 

It's in your original post:

You claim DEI hiring initiatives water down the talent level. How do you reach this conclusion without sayin the diverse hire is inferior to a non-diverse hire?

 

DEI is voluntary so what's the difference, you yourself pointed out that employers chucked it out overnight just based on an election. Nothing 'forced' them to adopt it either. So ... what if they do the same things except they dont put a name on it?

 

Unless it was someone from The babes thread, then I’d think she wants something from me

 

I've hired people from different backgrounds both before and after the company had any concept of DEI.

Have I shut down a job search to hire a (qualified) female engineer because I wanted to support/promote having more women in STEM, without holding out for the absolute BEST possible candidate - YES. Is that a DEI hire? Maybe. Do I still believe she was the right hire? Absolutely...

That's what people overlook in the "DEI is bad" argument. My (publicly traded large company) employer has a "DEI program". We recruit at universities. We send people to recruit at SWE (Society of Women Engineers conference). We send people to recruit at black and Hispanic conferences. Having a DEI program endorsed by corporate leaders means we get more exposure to candidates/resumes in these minority groups. It expands our candidate pool. Does that result in an increased number of women and minority candidates in our ranks - yes, it probably does. That's what it's intended to do. It does not mean we lower the bar to hire people we wouldn't otherwise consider. Which I why I take issue with the idea that having a DEI program lowers talent in the ranks. It's not the boogeyman some on the right want to make it out to be.

 

Op quoting himself is getting desperate. Needs a friend I think.