Cally sec of State sets the stage for a vote on secession

It's a whole lot of nothing. Apparently putting the proposal on the ballot is legal under the State's constitution and even if enough signatures are gathered to put the proposal on the ballot it is virtually certain to fail.

 

Further proof that the left coast liberals have literally lost it.
Neither Gov Nuisance nor Kalama are winning any national elections.

 

I’m pretty sure (I may need to refresh my history) that secession is unconstitutional, and we may have to settle the matter through force of arms.

 

Yeah, that’s really misleading. Gives the impression the sec of state is somehow involved. It’s just a guy who tried it before

 

Did you even read the link you posted?! I mean, c’mon.

“California Secretary of State Shirley Weber announced Thursday that she cleared the proponent of a secessionist movement to begin collecting petition signatures. Should Marcus Ruiz Evans and his CALEXIT team secure 546,651 signatures by July 22, then the proposal will be put to a vote on California's 2028 election ballot.

If at least 50% of registered voters participate in the election and 55% of voters say yes to the question, "Should California leave the United States and become a free and independent country?" then the result would register as a statewide vote of no confidence in the U.S. and an "expression of the will of the people of California" to become an independent country.

According to the California secretary of state's office, the no-confidence vote would not trigger an immediate change in the state's current government or relationship with the union. It would instead result in the formation of a commission to report on the Golden State's viability as an independent country.”

 

Nobody believed Brexit a legit possibility, but if Trump screws CA over fire relief i could see his likely grave unpopularity pushing referendums like this “closer than the experts think”. Of course it says even if it somehow passes nothing really happens, it just “triggers a commission” to study the matter.

Now when it comes to a hypothetical “commission” the obvious issue CA has is that so much of its water comes from the Colorado River. So the answer to whether they are viable as a standalone nation is kinda no. It’s bad enough solving water issues between states. Between nations? Good luck with that.

 

I should have also added that regardless of the vote on the referendum and it has very little chance of passing the issue of whether a state (or states) can secede from the Union was laid to rest once and for all at Appomattox Court House in 1865.

 

Lol

 

Ahem...

Anyone want to come back to this thread to eat some crow?

Scenario: Trump Wins The Election. Democracy Hangs By A Thread. What Should We Do?

 

The texas secessionists say hello

 

Not seeing the connection to riots.

CA has had secession movements for a long time (as has TX, as has eastern OR wanting to “secede” to Idaho). I’ve also seen whackadoodle plans to divide into several states.

Trump probably gives a little extra juice for people wanting to expolore this possibility, but ultimately it’s nothing new.

 

I predict that tomorrow Trump will sign an Executive Order kicking California out of the union.

Senator Graham will say it's technically illegal, but good riddance.

 

Op is unable to read. That’s all I gather from the OP and the link.

 

Tariffs first

 

There are two choices; that, or OP deliberately posts thread titles and info that is untrue. There's probably a more specific word for doing that.

 

I'd call that an extra Judicial analysis, but your point is taken, in that if we can pound your ass into submission for daring to entertain the notion of abandoning the harem, it's *unconstitutional*.

 

Not that CA will ever secede, but I don’t view the water issue as insurmountable as you think. Yes, it’s critical, but the US has water usage treaties with both Mexico and Canada, the latter just updated in 2024. The US was also one of the key drafters of the UN Watercourses convention so I don’t agree that the water issue would be impossible. This is borne out by several western states recently agreeing to reduce their Colorado River basin water usage by more 10%. Besides, the rest of the US relies on agriculture grown in CA with water from the Colorado river so there would be bargaining power there.

 

This OP posts a misleading (maybe some misunderstanding too) tag line? I’m utterly shocked. See, this is my shocked face.

o o
—-

 

Remember the thread when Texas had this in the TX Pub platform? Yeah, there is no chance of CA leaving the US.

OT: if crypto is not a currency, why can’t states bypass Article I, Sections 10, issue their own non-stable crypto coins and effectively allow for said crypto coin to be used within the state lines? Edit: Obviously there a commerce clause challenges, but since we are all about originalism…