Trump fires 17 (known) IG's on Friday Night Massacre - Who needs oversight?

Democrat IG's suck. Good move by Trump.

 

Derp. The felon had appointed some of them.

 

A lot of Trump's appointments sucked. Probably most of them in his first term. As Prez 47 only 25% suck. Which means his appointments are the best since Reagan (maybe better).

 

This is incredibly dangerous. It effectively negates the built-in checks that the legislature is supposed to have over the executive branch. This needs to be discussed far more than it is.

 

Why do you think Trump deserves more trust than any of the 46 presidents that preceded him, all of whom had guardrails to protect against abuse?

 

The “freak-out” isn’t over the failure to give 30 day notices here. The concern is that Trump is executing on his scheme to negate governmental guardrails, something he told us all he’d do. I know this might not be popular with many on this Board, but I want our President to have the guardrails to prevent absolute power.

 

Not a good move. My hope is that new IGs are installed. Know he said that most IGs are useless and do very little… and I’d agree to some extent.. but the threat that IGs bring to the table help to curb issues before they arrive.
Trump needs to replace those that he axed asap

 

The inspector general role was first created in 1978, the provisions saying they should be appointed without regard to political affiliation and requirement to notify Congress 30 days before removal have existed since 2008, and the requirement that the notification provide substantive reasons has existed since all of 2022.

Which is to say this isn’t exactly some long-standing, bedrock part of the US’s constitutional system of checks and balances.

 

Our system was set up with a series of checks and balances. I don’t see why there shouldn’t be a level of independence within agencies despite what Taft (as a former President) believed. Congress creates the agencies so you can look at limitations on terminating certain roles as Congress putting limits on the power they’ve delegated.

 

It doesn’t limit the firings to for cause (there were amendments proposed post-2020 that would have done that, but they weren’t adopted because of concern that doing so would be unconstitutional).

All the 2022 changes did with respect to firings is call for the congressional notification to be more detailed - the interesting changes in the 2022 law were the ones that related to who could be acting IGs and whether the President could move an inspector general to non-duty status during the 30 day notification period.

 

Since that time encompasses pretty much the majority of most everyone’s life span here, I am going to respectfully disagree. It has become a fairly strong bedrock of our system for the majority of our population.

 

So someone convicted of murder that is appealing their conviction for years on end is not a “criminal” until they have exhausted the appeal process?

 

Then change the law to make them non-political appointees.

 

When did replacing political appointees at the start of a new POTUS administration become breaking guardrails? The point a lot of us that work in government are making is that this is completely within the law and something every POTUS can choose to do. If IG’s need to be protected then make them non-political appointees.

 

Looks like the IG's are joining the resistance. Good on them.

Major government agency responds furiously after Trump's late-night purge as it issues thinly-veiled threat | Daily Mail Online

 

I’m impressed that they managed to stretch an entire article out of one of the fired IGs writing a letter asserting that he hasn’t been properly fired yet (and the assertion that CIGIE - a non-agency entity that next to no one even knows exists - is a “major government agency” is kind of funny).

 

Trump will replace the independent IGs that he canned with sycophants whose highest priority is loyalty to Trump rather than oversight of the federal agencies that they were nominally selected to oversee. For the next four years the goal of inspectors general will be the detection of any perceived disloyalty to the Dear Leader rather than the traditional role of IGs i.e. the uncovering of fraud, waste or abuse within the agencies that they were selected to oversee.