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Why the liberals lost the election.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by TheGator, Jan 25, 2025 at 3:01 PM.

  1. TheGator

    TheGator Basement Gator Fan Premium Member

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    Stephen A Smith hits the nail on the head. Liberals just don’t get it. They focus on issues that everyday Americans don’t care about.

     
  2. slayerxing

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    It’s interesting to me that republicans keep trying to figure out why or how democrats lost and then they share it with us. Like… shouldn’t you be keeping this on the down low? lol.

    I do appreciate the discussion on this topic - but I don’t think Stephen A has uncovered anything we didn’t already know and for those of us who have followed closely have complained about for a while.
     
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  3. gator_jo

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    They lost because Republicans like to elect traitorous, un-American criminals. Love it, in fact.
     
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  4. citygator

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    Exit polls keep telling right wing nuts what they don’t want to hear. American feel the economy is bad for them. The reason they want to pivot to culture wars is that their ideas for the economy will be devastating for their base.
     
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  5. TheGator

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    It is also interesting that anyone that disagrees with the Democrats or liberals, is automatically painted as MAGA or a conservative. Heaven forbid if someone thinks independently from the herd.
     
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  6. citygator

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    It was really the swing voters hating on their perceived economic progress. They will just vote against incumbents until someone offers a reasonable solution. There is no hope for the middle and lower class here.
     
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  7. citygator

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    Oh. And the democrats had a terrible Senate map and picked up house seats. No takeaways there.
     
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  8. slayerxing

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    where did I say that? I think there are a lot of liberals who agree with just about everything Stephen A said there.
     
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    Trump improved with young voters, blacks, Hispanics, the blue collar working class.

    He was leading Biden in 2023 and he led Biden and Harris in 2024. He never trailed. Trump's message of peace abroad, prosperity at home and control of the border put him in an unbeatable position. Democrats replaced Biden with the stupidest choice imaginable, Kamala, the one person who could not èscape responsibility for the Biden administration record. You could have bought Trump for ~ 20% on Polymarket in 2023 and quintupled your money. I missed that bet BTW.
     
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  10. sierragator

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    About half the country is ok with Trump and they got enough votes in crucial swing states to take the EC.
     
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    Nothing new or surprising. Anecdotally, a plurality of my black friends, voiced this sentiment to me at the tail end of Obama’s second term. The message was: “screw the Dems. Obama did nothing for [us]. What do [we] have to lose”? When asked if they cared about the consequences, it was a resounding “that affects you, not me”. I believe that the Dems are in a transactional voting block conundrum as a result of leaning into identify politics. Base “little guy” Democrat policy is specious.
     
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  12. rivergator

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    There's some truth to what Smith says. The Democrats did come across as too concerned over issues like transgender rights, which does not resonate with many people. Much of that is because they allowed the GOP to paint them that way. But the Dems weren't strong enough in making it clear what they were in favor of.
    Trump and the GOP pushed immigrant crime and crime in general really hard. Didn't matter if the numbers didn't reflect it.
    Inflation was huge, of course.
    And the Democrats did not have appealing candidates. Not Biden, not Harris.
    I do take exception to one thing Smith said - Trump doing what he promised. He sure didn't last time - border wall, bringing back manufacturing, health plan, infrastructure ... - though he making a lot of noise this time.
    But the bottom line, I think, is that the presidency always changes parties. Trump winning didn't mean the death knell for the Dems anymore than Bident's win meant it for the GOP. or Trump's win before that. Or Obama's, Bush's and Clinton's wins before that ...
     
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  13. cocodrilo

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    That's on Biden, who should not have run for reelection to start with, so the Democrats could have had an open primary and nominated someone with no responsibility for the Biden administration record. But Biden was too old-man stupid to see this, and I'm sure his wife Lady McBiden (as Pelosi's daughter has called her) did nothing to stop him from trying to stay in power by doddering his way to get reelected.
     
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  14. SotaGator

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    Who cares? Next up: mid-terms of 2026.
    Will the Repubs deliver on anything that helps pocketbook issues? If not, they will probably get pummeled. And $Trump will be a big quacking tweeting lame duck anyway.
     
  15. FutureGatorMom

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    It was :

    Elon's "million dollar a day giveaways" - you only gave your name and addy in a swing state
    Elon's Starklink transferring "data" from the tabulators to the supervisor of elections website
    Elon's Bullet ballots

    Pretty clever conspiracy theory huh?
     
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  16. flgator2

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    No, it was all Trump
     
  17. Donzo

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    That was part of it, but it was mostly what Stephen A said. America has had enough of left wing hate and the idiocy of woke DEI politics.

    Actually, Maher has been saying it, too.
     
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  18. vegasfox

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    Why do you think Trump didn't build a border wall?
     
  19. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You probably tell yourself this comfort story every night before you go to bed…
    Nighty-night River.
     
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  20. rivergator

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    Expensive, difficult, maybe impossible, Mexico wasn’t going to pay for it, he had no real plan , just promises …