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Trump Suggests Ending FEMA

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Jan 24, 2025 at 5:58 PM.

  1. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    LOL.. 1960 per capita. You crack me up. LA firefighting isn’t built to stop 60 mile an hour wind aided raging forest fires. Point is they have added firemen over time in LA and it has gone UP recently as population has gone DOWN.
     
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  2. vegasfox

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    Beyond the Brink: Data shows LA Fire Dept. among the most understaffed in America
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/14/us/la-fire-department-resourses-understaffed-invs/index.html

    "CNN —
    [/I] Less than a month before fires swept across Los Angeles, a group of longtime firefighters gathered at City Hall to plead for more resources. They were at a “breaking point,” one said. Another revealed that million-dollar fire trucks sat idle because budget cuts had shrunk the number of mechanics available to fix them.

    “I’m going to say what people can’t say,” said Freddy Escobar, president of the city’s fire union and a veteran firefighter. “If we cut one position, if we close one station … the residents of Los Angeles are going to pay the ultimate sacrifice, and someone will die.”

    The firefighters’ concerns over resources, it seems, weren’t off the mark. A CNN analysis of the most recent data available from the 10 largest US cities and other comparable departments shows the Los Angeles Fire Department is less staffed than almost any other major city, leaving it struggling to meet both daily emergencies and larger disasters such as wildfires.

    Despite being located in one of the most fire-prone areas in the country, the LAFD has less than one firefighter for every 1,000 residents. That compares to cities such as Chicago, Dallas and Houston, where staffing is closer to two firefighters for the same number of residents. Of the largest cities, only San Diego has fewer firefighters per capita."

    LA is a square 64 miles across. It has ~3500 firefighters to defend 4000 square miles. That's less than 1 firefighter per square mile for those of you in Rio Linda.
     
  3. ATLGATORFAN

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    Reimagine FEMA CG. Allow yourself to be unburdened by what has been
     
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  4. slayerxing

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  5. ATLGATORFAN

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    what is controversial about anything he said ? FEMA IS slow and IS
    Bureaucratic. How would anyone be against reevaluating a program that seems largely very inefficient. The horror. And it’s not lost you continue to transparently peacock yourself. Thank you for once again injecting your status and that can afford the higher taxes. You never waste an opportunity to be a pompous blowhard.
     
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  6. ATLGATORFAN

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    I have never attempted an audit of
    FEMA, their use of funds nor seen any internal data about the efficiency of their services compared to alternatives, so I can’t speak to specifics of what needs to be fixed. But I have zero problem with honest evaluation of any program or project….and if an alternative method can bring said services to those in need it seems a win for all parties.
     
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  7. rivergator

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    nothing wrong with reimagining FEMA or anything else. But it has to be approached carefully or you can spend a whole lot of time and money on an exercise.
    And you also have to thiink why FEMA? Is it just being brought on by the partisan and false claims that FEMA didn't respond to Western North Carolina because ... Biden gave money to Ukraine instead, or he gave all the money to illegal immigrantgs and there wasn't any left for FEMA, or because Western North Carolina is red, or ....
     
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  8. ATLGATORFAN

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    I’m all for auditing all agencies, administrators and programs. Businesses Do it all the time To survive. Constantly evaluating projects old and new. Expanding the efficient and cutting or changing any inefficiencies. This is a win for recipients and those that contribute…. Of course the OP frames it in a completely dishonest way purposely…no surprise
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    That AND subsidize homeowner's insurance? Too big a lift.
     
  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You guys are doing just fine carving yourselves up.
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  11. gator_jo

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    "Carve up" is Blukes new super creative phrase. It's almost as good as his popcorn GIF.

    He's a hair's breadth away from just trolling around the board typing "Face!!!" after posts he disagrees with. :)
     
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  12. slayerxing

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    last audit that was done was August 2024. A little bit of reading can take you a long way. It’s just weird to me you blindly support something without reading about it. FEMA has struggled to incorporate audit guidance at times, and there has been plenty of research on it. Sometimes they overspend, sometimes they underspend. most recently the issue was not closing out disaster funding in a timely manner. There is also another audit that was begun in December.

    some of the core arguments are whether fema should focus less on mitigation and more on response. Regardless, it is often reviewed and evaluated and I would encourage you to read about it and what it has accomplished over the years. Review and eval are great. But it should be purposeful and targeted.
     
  13. citygator

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    lol. After years of it I now avoid the trolling responses accusing me of envy. Guess there is no making you happy.
     
  14. gtr2x

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    End FEMA and turn the recoveries over to the states? or private contractors? Good luck with that. o_O

    I have to wonder how poorer states like Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, etc would pay for that. Hell, even Florida for that matter. California isnt the only state that has natural disasters. Ironic that many of the Trump voters will be the first ones to suffer if FEMA is dissolved.
     
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  15. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Delicious…keep it coming Jo!