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Early win total for UF on Fanduel...Gators 6.5 wins...easy money.

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Endless Excuses, Jan 21, 2025.

  1. spike718

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    To expand on the win total bet. The payout odds matter…

    Over 6.5 is -140
    Under 6.5 is +108

    So, you need to bet $140 to win $100 if you bet the over
    If you bet the under, you bet $100 and win $108

    Likely more money is coming in on the over thus the disparity in odds. I would guess that win total will eventually change to 7 wins if more money is bet on the over.

    Summary…you will get paid less per dollar, less than even money (nearly less than half your bet) betting the over. More value in the under as you get paid (if you win) at better than 1:1. These odds really matter when making bets on the total.
     
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  2. Tito22

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    We are going to be in February soon. Are we supposed to be getting an OC?
     
  3. G8R92

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    No. Billy told Zach Goodall he's not making any changes to the offense.
     
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  4. ThePlayer

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    Exactly why we'll lose another 3 or 4 games this season.
     
  5. Endless Excuses

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    I hear we will be going back to leather helmets too...how do we seem to find coaches unable and unwilling to change. If he doesn't bring in an OC we will flounder and lose at least a couple games we shouldn't have lost because of his incompetence. Im not sure why he would want to hasten his demise but that is exactly what he is doing. DJ's unique abilities saved his job this year but we know we will lose him at least for a few games this year, which we always seem to do with our QB, and our backup isn't going to bail out his everything within 10 yards of the LOS offense. If he is truly that foolish he is toast and he put his own damn self in the toaster.
     
  6. Wanne15

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    I think DJ staying heal will be a much bigger factor, along with his development.
     
  7. Wanne15

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    Yet DJ had one of the longest completion averages in the nation. How did that happen?
     
  8. Endless Excuses

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    Yes the line is moving but it came out as even odds at 6.5...Id still take every at 7 if that is where is settles.
     
  9. Brodeur

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    Some books (FanDuel is one of these apparently) prefer to set all win totals as an uneven number so there are no pushes. So they won't move the total until the betting is lopsided enough to justify moving the total to 7.5 wins.

    For example, they currently have Texas at 9.5 wins but the over is -200. That may justify a move to 10.5 at some point but they aren't willing to move it to 10.
     
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  10. G8R92

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    Now that you know that, feel free to pound the under. I'll take the over.
     
  11. Distant Gator

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    Outside of when we played the 3rd string QB- how many games did the offense lose us last year?
    We had UGA tied for 56 minutes even w/ Lagway going down in the 2nd quarter. So that loss can be pinned on our 3rd string QB.
    Texas also was on our 3rd string QB.

    Miami and TAMU were on the defense. The offense didn't help, but I'd hardly say the offense lost those games.

    Tennessee is the only one that could be blamed on the offense, and even that one could have gone either way.

    Don't get me wrong- the offense needs improving.
    But at most the offense cost us 1 game last year.

    Billy is not the greatest OC, but his offense is miles better than the Muschamp and even Mcelwain offenses.
     
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  12. ThePlayer

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    While Lagway's health is obviously key, which one of Cristobal, Kelly (@LSU), Sark, Elko, Kirby is Billy outsmarting with his offensive brilliance?
     
  13. Wanne15

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    I don't know about outsmarted, but he beat Kelly last year with a very faulty team. And I didn't see that list of coaches outsmarting anybody last year anyway. They won games because they had more talent.
     
  14. ThePlayer

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    Recruiting will qualify as an excuse for Billy for the next 100 years then.
    Georgia, Texas, LSU and Miami will likely out-recruit/get >transfers every year.
    Spurrier won games with lesser talent because he alone made the difference.
     
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  15. Distant Gator

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    I've said in another thread and I'll say again...
    Billy is not Spurrier or Urban Meyer. He's just not.
    This was always going to be a slow build because of the way Napier is and how he builds his team.

    If you want to be optimistic look at Dabo. He repeatedly fell short in the biggest games so often that "Clemsoning" became a verb.
    But after 7 years he won an NC, and 2 years later won his 2nd.
    He did this with classes ranked between 8-15.

    NOW- Dabo very aggressively hired and fired his coordinators and constantly upgraded his coaching staff.
    So a pessimist would say "Billy is no Dabo. No big splash OC or DC."

    What will be right? I don't know.
    But again, I do know Billy is not an X and O wizard like Spurrier or even Mullen.
    So let's stop expecting that.
     
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  16. gatorwalrus

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    For me the issue is Billy seems to want to win every game by 1 score, whether intentionally or not doesn't matter. The GOAT Nick Saban was 30-20 (.600) at Bama in 1 score games. If he continues to be unwilling to put teams away, it is exceedingly unlikely he will ever be as successful as we want him to be.
     
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  17. gatorwalrus

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    First, you can get away with that talent level stuff much easier in the ACC.

    Second, in order for Clemsoning to become a verb his teams had to be in a position to win championships, UF clearly have not. Sign me up for Gatoring, rather than well at least we're Bowling.

    Third, no one expects him to be an XO's savant, which is why everyone wants him to bring 1 in.
     
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  18. DieAGator

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    I don't believe he's unwilling.
     
  19. Distant Gator

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    Clemson had enough talent to beat Bama 44-16, FYI.
    If you have enough talent, and aren't constantly churning, and they are well-coached, it will work.
    But that's a lot of ifs- I know that.

    You probably didn't understand my post.
    I wasn't defending Billy. I absolutely think he should be MORE like Dabo and upgrade his coaching staff constantly.
    I was trying to set expectations that this was always going to be a slow build with his style coaching.

    Someone may say "I DON'T HAVE PATIENCE FOR THAT. WIN NOW."
    That's fine- but if that was the view we never should have hired Billy.

    So again I'm not defending. But trying to stop all the bitching posts because Billy will never be Spurrier or Meyer.
     
  20. gatorwalrus

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    Fair, perhaps a poor choice of words. But, at the end of the day when it comes to putting teams away... [​IMG]
     
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