Y'all have ridden that 'insurrection' BS as far you could. It was somewhat effective with a friendly DOJ but that is no longer the case. The voters didn't see it as a big deal.
Could be. If so, it's no surprise at all that these Trumpy purveyors of falsehoods don't know the difference between a pardon and clemency. It's bizarre, of course, that they think everyone else shares the same ignorance.
Its hilarious watching you guys go back and forth condemning the other side for things your side does.
Thank you. So there were upwards of 1,500 people who deserved multi-year sentences for storming the Capitol? I would assume many of those were guilty of, at most, some property destruction? Because they didn't actually stop the certification of the election. Maybe an hour delay, if that? I could see a handful of provocateurs getting multi-year sentences, but 1,500 people??
Really? The cult loves to minimize the Jan.6th insurrection, but the courts determined it was sedition at the least. How many did the felon pardon? 1500-1600 in jail, doing time, some served already. Note: the majority plead guilty. Sue it was nothing at all. LOL With a crooked judge in So. Fla. running cover and getting caught for it the felon was able to stall long enough to keep it from a guilty verdict.
From the one article I read on this, there actually was no distinction between “violent” vs. “nonviolent” in these pardons. More than 600 people were charged with assaulting police and these criminals received “full pardons”. From what I can tell some of the proud boys technically only received commutations, rather than pardons, but that was only 14 people. I don’t think many would take issue with non-violet offenders, those who breeched the inside but did not assault anybody (most of these were charged with something like “disrupting an official proceeding” and already served their minor sentences). This would be several hundred people at least, if not nearly 1000. I thought Biden might have given some pardons to non-violent offenders. Ridiculous to pardon those who assaulted police though…
A few did speak up…. “Among the most outspoken was former Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell (Kentucky), who told Semafor: “No one should excuse violence. And particularly violence against police officers.” Sen. Bill Cassidy (Louisiana) offered similar comments, telling reporters, “People who assault police officers, if they do the crime, they should do the time.” “I’m disappointed to see that, and I do fear the message that is sent to these great men and women that stood by us,” Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) said, referring to the Capitol Police officers who were assaulted. Sen. Thom Tillis (North Carolina) added: “Anybody who is convicted of assault on a police officer, I can’t get there, at all. I think it was a bad idea.” but many were muted at best, with some supporting it…. “Sen. Tommy Tuberville (Alabama) said that he was “100 percent” for all of the pardons and that the defendants had served enough time. When pressed on those who assaulted police, Tuberville said that was “not acceptable” but that he “didn’t see” the video.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...eaction-jan-6-violent-offenders-trump-pardon/
I don't have all the facts on length of sentences or the actual crimes of which they were convicted. However, I don't agree with pardoning those who attacked police officers. However, I am not going to complain about Trump's pardons just like I didn't complain about Biden's pardons. It is one of the powers granted to the President in the Constitution.
To most voters who cast their votes for Trump the price of eggs and other groceries took precedence over what happened on January 6, 2021. As far as they were concerned if Trump could lower prices his potential decision to release 1,500 criminals really wouldn't matter.
That's one way of ignoring the insane grotesquery of Trump pardoning hundreds of criminals who beat the **** out of police, as part of an un-American criminal conspiracy to overturn an election. For the ONLY time that's happened in US history.
Not really, President Johnson pardoned all confederate soldiers who fought in the Civil War. The president extended “unconditionally, and without reservation ... a full pardon and amnesty for the offence [sic] of treason against the United States, or of adhering to their enemies during the late Civil War, with restoration of all rights, privileges, and immunities under the Constitution and the laws.”
Had there not been so much frickery after Jan 6 this would be more black and white but the left went after and charged a bunch of people that never should have been charged. I'd rather see everybody pardoned than to have to review case by case while innocent people suffer. That is what happens when the courts and justice system play politics.
I hardly think a step necessary to rebuild the nation, 160 years ago and done by the winning side as a demonstration of healing, is comparable to Trump pardoning those complicit in his treason.
