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NCAA NIL Estimated Revenue and scholarships 2025

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by wearetheboys, Jan 3, 2025.

  1. paidinfull

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    They're trying to use this single lawsuit to create a quasi-cba. It ain't gonna fly. The athletes will have to organize and the ncaa will have to negotiate with them as a whole at some point, or these individual lawsuits are going to be never ending. They negotiate with one guy and try to make blanket policies. Well, the rest of the athletes did not agree to this and they're going to sue individually to get what they want too.

    I don't even think this lawsuit settlement is recognizing the athletes as employees yet, is it? This is just allowing the schools to contribute a capped amount to NIL. The athletes will have to become employees and organize before any real headway is able to be made.
     
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  2. paidinfull

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    If/when these teams are no longer affiliated with the school, are the alumni going to keep funding it? I'd think they'd rather fund club sports at that point, or academics, or find something else to blow their money on.
     
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  3. Crusher

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    Bingo...which is why the players (agents) are using pretzel logic to try to keep this thing under the Colleges and Universities. They know a Football minor league is doomed financially without NFL financial assistance (NFL doesn't want to do that either).
     
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  4. 62gator

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    One of the valid concerns when all of this “stuff” started was centered on whether donations to the program would then be redirected towards buying players. Most athletic programs were barely in the black before. If this were to happen on a large scale it would cripple them. Before fans were just expected to pay a booster fee, buy tickets, concessions, merchandise, travel, etc. Now they’re expected to also kick in to buy players when the hat comes around. Is this really sustainable? It’s a giant house of cards that’s eventually going to collapse, imho. I actually don’t think that’s a bad thing either. A solid foundational reset would be good, roll everything back.
     
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  5. Wanne15

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    They may be forced to seperate football.
     
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  6. Wanne15

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    But we will continue to support our " gators." No ody cates about paper structure.
     
  7. Wanne15

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    Players dont need headway, the schools do. This is a mess for the schools not the players .
     
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  8. paidinfull

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    I’ve said as much, repeatedly. The athletes have no reason to come to the bargaining table right now unless the courts force them to. I don’t think the schools have the balls to lock them out which is the only real way the schools could force the issue.

    That doesn’t change what I said though. No real headway will be made here until the athletes organize. There won’t be any kind of cba until that happens. You’re just going to have endless individual lawsuits until then.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    Schools are getting fans to foot the bill and they collect the big bags? They dont care either. The fans/ boosters are who is getting bent over.
     
  10. paidinfull

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    The schools care. You just acknowledged the schools need headway in the post immediately before this one, lol.
     
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  11. Crusher

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    There isn't any reason to lock-out anyone to force the issue. There isn't a union or CBA at present. All the NCAA has to do to force the issue is withdraw from the proposed settlement and let the lawsuit move forward. Otherwise they risk getting hammered by Title IX lawsuits or split this revenue share evenly among all athletes. I can just imagine a school in court telling the judge that unknown college football player X's NIL value is more than star women's soccer player Y. That would be a laugh-fest.
     
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  12. Wanne15

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    They dont like what the portal brings but they dont mind enough to pick up the payroll for the team generating their profits. As long as boosters and fans pick up the tab, nothing will happen.
     
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  13. paidinfull

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    Agree. They have to become employees before any bargaining agreement can be hashed out. Locking them out today would accomplish nothing.

    The quasi-cba they’re trying to work out with the current settlement is just going to lead to an endless amount of individual lawsuits.
     
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  14. paidinfull

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    They still want to have their cake and eat it to. They’ve lost all their power. If you think they don’t care about losing all control of everything after having complete control for all of history, I don’t know what to tell you. They’ve lost control of significant portions of the money, they’ve lost control of movement, they’ve lost control of tampering, they’re losing control of eligibility, the list goes on and on. Right now they’re just grasping at straws trying to avoid the inevitable.
     
  15. Wanne15

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    You are completely correct yet they dont care enough to take the money they are bringing in and pay for their payroll. They did it to themselves with greed and greed is still their top priorty.
     
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    The positives of this system is everything is out in the open.. End this system and go back to the old ways, and the players will still be getting paid, just under the table. The biggest negative, IMO, is the revenue is disconnected from the expenses. who would invest in a business where you have the company you invested in pay all expenses, and any income goes to a third party (UAA, school, in this case), not the party paying the expenses.? With numbers now approaching 20-25 million to "buy" a top team, it's going to get more difficult to raise enough money from the working people to make kids rich.
    The teams that will prosper are the ones with a mega wealthy sponsor. Get someone like Musk to send his kid to UF and we will be in business.
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    I like the system much better than anything before where it is in the open and it's not cheating anymore. The part that sucks is that the fans are paying for everything with no return at all. The part that sucks for the average fans who aren't paying for anything is this stupid freaking portal and kids just up and jumping whenever they want.
    It's always the boss's fault though, and that would be the schools. The ball is in their court, and they created this mess.
     
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  18. paidinfull

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    It’s a free for all, but not really all out in the open. Still have no idea how much money is moving around, or what the contracts are for.
     
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  19. Wanne15

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    Its much easier to make deals whenever everyone is in the dark, but I would assume the people with the money are getting a lot more feedback as to what's actually going on.
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    The NCAA needs to be completely overhauled...

     
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