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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Jan 8, 2025.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Pharma reps were frantically pushing their kits because you were only dude that was buying.

    Mapping of the US Domestic Influenza Virologic Surveillance Landscape - PMC

    And I can SEE the same images the modern-day demonologists tell me are viruses. I tell them I can also see pictures of Santa Claus and the Loch Ness Sea Monster.
     
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  2. gatorpa

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    Over the years I’ve seen dozens of Pharma Reps, NEVER have seen one pushing Influenza test kits.

    it you’re the expert on things that don’t exist so I guess we should defer to your expert opinion.
     
  3. QGator2414

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    Agreed. And some of this is just common sense.

    The only reason I would ever have a flu test would be if required/lost enough fluid where needed to get IV in which case it would be required. Never officially tested positive for Flu but one of our kids did (they had the flu shot lol) and I ended up sick with the same symptoms. I certainly had the Flu. Flu shots ended then btw :D. Not fun for sure. Part of the problem was I was dumb enough to run a 5K in the middle. Ran 21:10 that day. But felt like a Mac Truck ran me over the rest of the day! One of the dumb male decisions I have made lol.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    Didn’t you say you’d ordered thousands of them ?
     
  6. gatorpa

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    Yeah in 20 plus years of the ER I’d say I’ve order thousands. They weren’t done because some rep told us to do it.
    They may be made by a “pharma” company but if they have reps for them it’s news to me. Same for Strep Throat.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    My link says 77,000 tests a year. By my math thousands over twenty years makes you a major driver of flu testing.
     
  9. BLING

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    77,000 is the number of specimens sent to state labs for testing.

    Mapping of the US Domestic Influenza Virologic Surveillance Landscape - PMC

    Looks like upwards of 800,000/year are done directly at point of care facilities (and this was back in 2015-2016). The number you reference (77,000) is what gets sent to state level labs. A smaller number still get sent to CDC labs.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Baffling, why would to test for something which is so readily diagnose, by symptoms, based on symptoms which are distinguished from common colds ?

    Also, compare 800k tests per year to two-million cases A Day for ‘Covid.’
     
  11. gatorpa

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    Yep, he missed that little part.
    Those numbers are just guessing too.
    Many smaller UCC and Dr offices aren’t counting how many they do and reporting that to some bean counter.
     
  12. gatorpa

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    Although Influenza often has a very specific set of symptoms not all cases present the same way.

    History and Physical can give you a good idea of the diagnosis in like 75% of cases, tests confirm or deny your suspicions.

    Learned that my first week of PA school.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Test that confirms the symptoms you reported to your doctor.

    Sidenote: 800,000 is 2,200 a day vs. TWO MILLION a day during pan-panic. Still, even 2,200 a day is a lot of money in the pocket.
     
  14. gatorpa

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    Are you under the misguided assumption that Doctors get paid for doing Flu swabs?
    If you have the Flu don’t you think that may carry a little different treatment and isolation protocol than the common cold and that knowing definitively would be good?

    The test doesn’t confirm symptoms, it confirms the specific infectious agent. Then again you don’t believe viruses exist and cause illness so why am I even trying…
     
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    You're arguing with a guy that thinks "mass derangement " is a more logical reason as to why people who didn't even believe in covid ended up in the hospital or died from symptoms that thousands shared.
     
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  16. gatorpa

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    True, I forget.

    At least others here may learn something..
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Somebody damn sure gets paid for flu kits.

    And to correct you, between the two of us, I’m not the believer.

    There is no scientific evidence that people are deadly disease vectors.
     
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    Covid is cellular debris that has the almost preternatural ability to seek out and kill people who deny its existence.

    That said, beats me how long it’s taking to find me.
     
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    Googling how many drugs are recalled by the FDA I get …

    “There have been 15,749 total drug recalls issued by the FDA. On average, 1,284 drugs are recalled every year, based upon the data from 2012 to 2023. 1,636 Class I drug recalls have been issued by the FDA. 12,595 Class II drug recalls have been issued by the FDA.”

    Googling are all drugs recalled previously approved by the FDA I get …

    “Yes, all medications that are recalled by the FDA were previously approved by the FDA.”
     
  20. gatorpa

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    Flu kits are mostly a cost of doing business. Do you think a Doctor gets paid for every alcohol pad or band aid used in their practice? Now sure there may be a small charge from the hospital but most insurance isn’t paying for services piece by piece.

    If you really believe that then you should be able to go exchange body fluids with an ebola patient or some with full blown AIDs and not sweat it.

    I somehow doubt given the chance you would do so.