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NCAA NIL Estimated Revenue and scholarships 2025

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by wearetheboys, Jan 3, 2025 at 9:05 AM.

  1. Crusher

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    I still think the biggest hurdle for the NCAA schools will be when the inevitable Title IX class action cases are filed. Top research Universities are going to have to figure out how not to sacrifice billions of $$ in federal lucre in order to field a competitive football and basketball team.
     
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  2. SeabudGator

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    Agree. Really good article on the coming settlement and outstanding issues:
    The Legal Decision That Will Change College Sports Forever

    Another from a title IX attorney:
    NCAA revenue sharing will be subject to Title IX

    Suspect legislation may be proposed clarifying that revenue sharing is or is not subject to title 9, but at the end of the day I see no path forward other than collective bargaining.
     
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  3. CHFG8R

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    How would that work when you're limited to 4 years (I guess 5 now)? Seems like that's a major hurdle for the union. I wonder if it would make more sense for the NFLPA - or something like it - to expand into this role?
     
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    IMO, you'd almost have to deal with them as contractors rather than full employees.
     
  5. paidinfull

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    How long does the average NFL career last? 3 years, which is less eligibility than they have in college. Current players join the union, past players move on or move into advisory roles or whatever they do in the nfl.

    I don’t know why they’d want to unionize yet though. Right now they have the upper hand. Don’t think the schools have the balls to lock them out. I guess the courts could force them to the table.
     
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  6. oneatatime

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    Still a big black hole to me, but since football could be convoluted with 105, I decided to look at Men's basketball, that have smaller rosters but larger than average payouts. Will 15 become the limit of players on scholarship or does that also include walk-ons (similar to football being limited to a rumored total of 105)?

    More importantly could our starting senior backcourt relinquish their scholarships which have a value of $X in lieu of an NIL payout valued at $10X, freeing up three scholarships to freshman?
     
  7. Crusher

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    You are aware of human nature, right?
     
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    It worked for me, May 24
     
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    Biggest thing in that second article to me is assigning fines to the smaller schools who to me shouldnt even be liable. Most sports programs arent making tons of profits.
     
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  12. Crusher

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    The second article is very good. This decision will end football at a lot of colleges. Mike Hill knows a thing or two about big-time college football having trained at UF, but its disingenuous to complain about the settlement when his conference is voluntarily joining the settlement. If they didn't want to they could have taken their chances in court and/or left the NCAA completely.
     
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    We have football at west glorida. Im not sure how they afford it it but it isnt from major conference tv deals. I think most teams will continue but having 130 teams in the top division is a joke. They have needed to be separated for a long time. There should only be 30-50 trams competing at the top level. I think money will make that happen . With the newly acquired players payroll being alot more than it was under the table, im not sure the big boys can continue to carry the weight of the pretenders.
     
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    Interesting.

     
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  15. Crusher

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    Ha, ha, the NCAA (the obvious "approving" 3rd party) is trying to go back down the getting rid of booster payments directly to athletes rabbit hole. Even after several States have passed laws allowing it. I guess they aren't too tired of getting slapped around in court yet. Allowing this version of the settlement to go forward will allow the prior obvious offenders re-start the ole "under the table booster bag" atmosphere and the NCAA's selective enforcement (if any at all) of allegations.
     
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  16. paidinfull

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    If everyone is paying big bucks, wouldn’t that be fair market value? I don’t see them winning any cases that try to limit money in third party deals.

    I don’t even know why they’d agree to disclose third party deals. It’s not really anyone’s business.
     
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    Wow the difference between mens and womens basketball is astonishing and most likely going to be challenged.
     
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  18. Crusher

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    I think the Revenue distribution by the schools is capped at a certain amount, so any boosters or booster groups that would want to exceed the cap would have to funnel the money some other way and I doubt they would want their "NIL" deals disclosed and potentially disallowed.
    Agreed, I think they lose on that, again.
     
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    Oh you can bet your bottom dollar that this dumb settlement will get a Title IX challenge the minute College X's gymnast gets $500 and the Football player gets $500,000. I think this settlement will collapse like a house of cards the minute it's challenged in court.
     
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