Plane going off runway in S Korea

Saw one part say the pilot called a mayday 2 minutes before the crash and the controller had them land the opposite direction on the runway. I am thinking this was not a controlled landing. Maybe partially. It will be interesting to find out. They should be able to figure out what happened though.

 

Has Putin apologized yet?

 

Just saw the footage.

Apparently a passenger texted about a bird strike. And said they were in trouble. The airport had also just issued a bird strike alert for the area.

 

Typical "journalism".

 

I guess the tail is the best place to be? Only survivors were crew from the back.

 

Not normally, usually over the wings is the best place to be. In this case, it's a collision with a wall that did it in, so definitely not a normal plane crash. If that wall wasn't there, they likely walk away from the plane with a story to tell.

 

Nothing about that makes sense, will be really interesting to see what the flight and data recorders say. If it was a bird strike, the odds of it taking out both engines is really really low (miracle on the Hudson notwithstanding). But even if it did, the landing gear and flaps should have been fine. Maybe it happened a such a low altitude there wasn’t time?
But why is there a concrete wall at the end of the runway?

 

Of course it is. Never heard of a plane backing into a mountain

 

You can’t make stuff like that up. Zero background checks.

 

Another flight with a landing gear problem. Different airline, different plane type, and different part of the world. An Air Canada flight had an apparent landing gear issue on a landing in Nova Scotia. Passengers saw flames on the left side of the propeller plane. Both problems occurred in winter in cold locations.

Passengers report flames as Air Canada flight suffers ‘suspected landing gear issue’ after landing

 

Hard to watch that video.

 

Yep, knowing all but three on board were headed to their death.

 

This is why I hate flying. Statistically safer than ground travel, but if something goes wrong, you're screwed. I haven't flown in 15 years, but I still have nightmares about it. I can't enjoy a trip I take by plane because I spend all the time up till going dreading the flight and then I spend all the time I'm there dreading the flight back. The PTSD after surviving such an ordeal must be unimaginable.

 

Yeah, all that because they said Fuk incorrectly.

 

Been an incredibly bad week for aviation workdwide

 

I hit the second highest tier for status every year due to work. It’s never bothered me flying though. It world probably be terrifying the couple of minutes before an accident but I don’t think it would be a terrible way to go in the grand scheme. Certainly better than a lot of diseases I’ve seen wreck peoples bodies and minds, or tragic accidents where you hang on for days, weeks or months.

 

"Statically" is pretty malleable as usual.

Automobile stats measure door to door trips ( same as flights--runway to runway, anyway...).

But Automobile stats don't factor in for every single time you pass a car going in the opposite direction, the only thing separating you from a head on collision, is a painted line, and the driver of the opposing vehicle (a complete stranger) respecting that line.

Try to account for that, and the driving risk would probably appear to be significantly safer.

Statistically.