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Rand Paul's report on $1 Trillion in guvment waste in 2024

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Dec 27, 2024 at 6:54 AM.

  1. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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  2. vaxcardinal

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    Will be a challenge to get $1T in savings but any savings is good and a success. Of course people that hate Trump will hate anything that is tied to him and would consider savings $1 less than the targeted $1T figure as a failure.
     
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  3. gator_jo

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    LOL, Elmo and Don love America so much, and really want to help people.

    That's why anyone who clicks on your link from the Blaze will probably find a list of things that will hurt Trump's political enemies, reward his political friends, and necessitate large contracts going to Elmo Musk. And probably investments to Jared.

    Trump is, after all, a criminal. With a specialty in financial fraud and grift. Anyone who thinks he'll actually try to do anything to help anyone besides himself probably also expects him to soon release his health care plan.
     
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    You doing ok? Seems like you’re slipping here in not throwing a rape comment in. You need to do better.
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    Huh? You need to be regularly reminded that you voted for an adjudicated and admitted sexual assaulter?

    Weird. You're a grown adult, and a presumably educated one. It's not my job to ensure that you bother to learn, and remain aware of, simple facts. Such as that the adulterous rapist you voted for was accused of sexual assault by appx 27 women.

    Does making light of this fact, or me, somehow allow you to (try to) ignore it? If so, give it a try, I guess....
     
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  6. sierragator

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    Anything but tax cuts for the rich and spending shit tons on defense is waste in their world.
     
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  7. G8tas

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    Anyone that thinks there will be any savings is a fool because it will be offset by tax cuts keeping us in the same place we've always been
     
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    I believe (a) there's a lot of waste, (b) it's primarily in the military-industrial complex and (c) most Americans are willing to tolerate that waste. I don't have an exact percentage, but I'd venture to say we could cut 20% from military spending and still have the readiness necessary for an effective fighting force.
     
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    Problem is the “waste” goes into the pockets of white collar executives and shareholders of defense contractors, which then gets kicked back to politicians. You better believe they’d cut supplies or benefits to the fighting force before cutting the MIC gravy train.
     
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  11. Trickster

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    No doubt about it. Plain and simple, it's corruption.
     
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    Woman sent to prison for cheating Pentagon

    Zero chance this type of lack of accountability is a one off event. Problem is ANY scrutiny of the military is seen as anti-American.
     
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    I've told my story on here before of my first job out of college working for a defense contractor. Our prices to the US were triple what we charged foreign entities. The head of my department went to jail for selling to black listed countries (through an intermediary country) about 2 months after I quit. As soon as he got out of jail he got hired on at some other company and now he speaks and consults. All corrupt to the core.
     
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    So they list examples of maybe $100 million. So where is the rest of the 999.9 billion?
     
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  15. chemgator

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    Trump is a dual-faceted person. He dedicated his entire life to grifting and rape. This story is about the grifting part of his personality.
     
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    I would have to assume that part of the reason for the high prices is that you CAN'T sell to any other country. You invest a lot of money developing new technology to try to make your one client happy, and whether you turn a profit or not is determined by the whims of the one client. I imagine that many products have the plug pulled on them before you've sold enough units to turn a profit. That tends to jack the price up.
     
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    Rand’s neighbor was right. ;)
     
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  18. g8orbill

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    I don’t know about that- our collected income tax under the Trump tax cuts in his first term went up
     
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    for new tech, I think the military typically uses cost-plus contracts, hence, bearing the risk.

    the shortest consulting engagement: Boeing wanted a more accurate cost-system. We asked why? They reconsidered. We saved them 100s of millions & got squat. Many firms intentionally have crappy cost systems & for a myriad of reasons.
     
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  20. demosthenes

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    Is that true? Just did a quick search and 2017 looked the same as 2020 though there may have been covid effects. 18 and 19 were marginally higher.