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Musk - Homelessness a LIE

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Dec 12, 2024.

  1. CaptUSMCNole

    CaptUSMCNole Premium Member

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    Do you honestly consider Musk a Nepo Baby?

    Do you think that policies toward homeless may have changed between the late 80's/ early '90's in a way that has been detrimental to society and may require reform?
     
  2. PetrolGator

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    Yes. Musk can deny it all he wants, but emerald mine money was absolutely there. Later interviews venomously deny a nest egg, but reporting from pre-right wing Musk mention investments from his father and a (at worst) comfortable life in South Africa. Is this a bad thing? Not normally. However, seeing Musk delighting in dumping on impoverished people and joyfully wanting to cut critical support programs makes it relevant.

    I’m very comfortable now, but I remember where I came from and act accordingly.

    Re: homeless? The same accusations were made against my family that I hear today: drugs, laziness, irresponsibility, etc My observation is that attitudes toward homeless people has only gotten worse as many Americans have falsely equivocated wealth with superiority.

    I did a lot of volunteer work in NOLA with impoverished people. Funding for programs became almost entirely dried out from state and federal cuts. Now there are talks of killing or substantially diminishing SNAP, WIC, and other programs because they cost too much? We’ll slash taxes for the wealthy and pull the rug out from under the poor. When they end up on the street, we’ll round them up and put them in places they are less visible.

    Note: there are substantial numbers of homeless people with serious mental and developmental disorders. Deinstitutionalisation (jeez that’s a word) also left many who didn’t have family, capability, or finances with a place to live that had the needed support to keep them safe…. Not that mental wards didn’t need major reform. Many of these are veterans that we’ve let rot after suffering serous trauma fighting for their country.


    TL;DR - Of course I think we need to reform how we approach homeless people and those a (at most) paycheck away from ending up on the streets. Poverty has long been a driver of crime.
     
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  3. CaptUSMCNole

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    So out of curiosity, is there any level of wealth Musk can achieve that would graduate him out of being a Nepo Baby? Without invoking the Princess Bride, that term is typically applied to people that get their start due to their parent's position in an industry rather than breaking in on their own and never achieve above their parent, ie Dakota Johnson or Brian Schottenheimer type. Seeing as Musk made it in the early Silicon Valley days, I think saying he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth is probably more accurate than Nepo Baby, as he has far out paced anyone in his family at this point.

    As long as you are open to the idea that some policies might encourage homelessness rather than work to help people out of it, I'm fine with that.
     
  4. PetrolGator

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    I only roll out “nepo baby” when kids from wealthy or near-wealthy families fail to appreciate the privilege they had. It doesn’t guarantee success, but it sure damn makes it easier.

    I’m not sure what policies encourage homelessness, aside from those which contributed to massive wealth discrepancies that took off in the ‘80’s.
     
  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    So from your prospective, no one from wealthy or near wealthy families can ever achieve any success on their own?

    So all homelessness is due to wealth discrepancies?
     
  6. CHFG8R

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    Nope, but I honestly 100% believe he's a CCP man, which is really terrifying when you think about it. Just watch these tariffs and who pays and, in this case, who doesn't. He's got billions if not trillions in chips on China and he's going to do everything in his power to make sure he eventually cashes those in. You can just feel the backstab coming with this guy.
     
  7. PetrolGator

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    Please do not mischaracterize what I said cause it’s literally not what I posted. I said wealth makes success easier.

    Not being saddled by loan debt? Makes life easier.

    Growing up in a wealthy school district? Far better education.

    Regular examples of money planning? Far more likely to be successful.

    Georgetown University did a nice infographic based on research:

    Born to Win, Schooled to Lose: Why Equally Talented Students Don't Get Equal Chances to Be All They Can Be - CEW Georgetown

    The reality simply is that having more access to good tools makes it easier to succeed. Generational wealth is also a thing. These are not guarantees of success. Being born poor doesn’t mean you won’t be successful, either.

    I do not fault people who come from wealthy or upper middle class people that had said advantages. My issues come from when those people fail to recognize their privileges, look down on those who do not, and especially when extremely wealthy people legislate to make it even harder for poor people to escape the cycle of poverty.