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What about NC Joe

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Dec 3, 2024.

  1. BLING

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    The federal govt should be pouring money in to help rebuild infrastructure.

    Individual assistance can only be more temporary. I saw a lot of people complaining about “only $750!!!??? My government failed me”, so I guess these people wanted the feds to immediately give them $5000 or $10,000 in cash. I’m sure a lot of people do end up with federal assistance in the thousands, and that might be the reality of what it costs to get people through a few months. But ultimately if they didn’t have insurance the govt can’t be making them whole or else it’s obviously unfair to those who pay to have insurance. It’s just about helping them figure things out for a few months or through winter. Beyond that low interest or subsidized loans would also be a good idea for rebuilding. How did FEMA ever get into the “trailer” business? That always seemed weird to me in the first place. Does the govt maintain a huge inventory of mobile homes somewhere? :emoji_joy:

    In FL after hurricanes the most visible thing about FEMA is the debris trucks which haul away huge piles of trees and household waste piles (furniture and belongings which were flooded). I’m sure they are contracted, but everyone refers to them as “FEMA trucks”. Seems like we might as well have a permanent fleet of them down here now.
     
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  2. citygator

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    No one is saying 71 deaths and destroyed homes wasn't a traumatic event. The accusation from you is that there was no help there. That is BS. You are talking about inconveniences, not life threating issues. A line at publix? Driving further to get gas? OK. I am sorry for your inconvenience as well as my brother's who was out of power for 5 days and had no potable water for 2 weeks while thousands of people worked to restore it.

    FEMA's job isnt to remove the trees from the road. They provide funding and coordination. A local dude working for a local company plus people fly/drive in from other companies to aid local and state companies to remove trees and they are paid by the state which is reimbursed by the federal government - FEMA. Most of the heavy lifting is done by the state. Do you think there are thousands of FEMA vest wearing tree guys sitting in an office waiting for a tree to fall down and get on a plane to fly there? Come on. That's not how it works. FEMA mostly hands out checks and coordinates. They do hire local people temporarily for some jobs. If you are in Gainesville here is a job opening. Most of FEMAs job openings are financial and insurance specialists but this is local hire to help volunteers for 120 days.

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  3. redbass-510

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    Look city, I am talking about the necessities of life. When you are thirsty and hungry and need fuel for generators it would be a relief to see the federal government, whichever agency stepped up,to bring in these necessities. Eventually enough roads got cleared so that the private sector was able to resupply us. Would You have wanted that for your brother and for all of us in He
    look city, I am talking about the necessities after a disaster, water, food, fuel for generators. We would have liked to see the federal government step in in the days and weeks following. Eventually the private sector was able to bring in supplies once the roads were cleared. Wouldn’t you want that for your brother and all of us? Again, I lived through that, you didn’t. It makes one appreciate the basics.
     
  4. rivergator

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    I still don't get it. I mean, I'm not there. But News story after news story says stuff like this less than a week after the storm:

    https://apnews.com/article/hurrican...rolina-water-737bd51b1351315dc28522e36c425f18

    Or this from the NC governors office just two days after the storm:
    An Unprecedented Response: State, Local and Federal Partners Surge Resources into Western NC Following Historic Damage from Hurricane Helene

    But you keep claiming they were nowhere to be found. Am I misunderstanding something?
     
  5. redbass-510

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    I can only speak to what I experienced where we were stuck. Hendersonville and surrounding area. Roads impassable, water and food and fuel not there for weeks. Eventually Publix semis arrived and a fuel tanker here and there. We could not get to Flat Rock which is on the way to Greenville, for weeks. Makes one appreciate a fuel tanker and a food semi.
     
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  6. vegasfox

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    Knowing how gov't bureaucrats operate this is no surprise
     
  7. ridgetop

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    Wow
    So much compassion for those devastate by that storm. Oh I know.. it wasn’t COMPLETE destruction so we should all quit being dramatic. And of course Biden oversaw a heroic rescue/relief effort full of American spirit. Those of you who lived through all of it with a different perspective or just anti American.
    And compared to Bush’s response to Katrina.. This was soooo much better, so much faster. The best really. And we know this because a few of our libbie posters visited some of that area a few days after the storm. Really got to know the locals that lost everything. Went to the hills and hollows to see what damage was down. Watched FEMA go above and beyond to help the poor, homeless, desperate and has informed all of us how great fema did
    .I mean sure.. there are carried accounts of some fema workers warning not to go up to houses with Trump signs.. but they did a great job. Full of American spirit.
     
  8. PITBOSS

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    what does this even mean?!?!
     
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  9. ridgetop

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    Biden was/ is great ( well not really Biden since we know he was just puppet )and FEMA did such an amazing job. Any complaints are anti American and just whiny babies. Just read some of the reports.. not from those that lived through it.. but from those that visited.
     
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  10. gator_jo

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    I get it - you're being sarcastic!! You're trying to mock those that said Biden/FEMA did fine wrt North Carolina. That's funny!!

    The reality, of course, is probably that FEMA did OK wrt North Carolina, Biden probably had pretty little impact on FEMA, and there's really no major "Biden angle" on all of this. So yeah, it probably is just an opportunity for the right to whine.

    If you want to be disturbed about something though.....

    .....remember how Trump repeatedly told racist lies about FEMA? The lies that "FEMA gave all their money to illegal immigrants" ? Lies that nearly incited people to violence against relief workers?

    Now that is an unacceptable travesty that's worth complaining about. Don't seem to recall you mentioning that though......
     
  11. citygator

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    redbass still confusing convenience in the aftermath of a disaster with disaster response. Here is the Asheville Lowes. Redbass wanted FEMA to have it available to shop so he didn’t have to drive further.

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  12. redbass-510

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    City you should write fiction. You accuse me of wanting convenience. Bs. Asheville just up the road. Most roads were blocked by trees, remember? Oh that’s right you weren’t there. It’s not convenience looking for food to take home and cook on a bbq grill if you have one. Running a generator to try to preserve what you have in the fridge? Fueling up a generator at 3 in the morning? Day after day hoping for necessities to arrive….you try living like that, instead of stupid comments like you make…..no our government gave us nothing for weeks. Why not? Maybe because there were more Trump signs in yards than Harris? Whatever, we got no help in the Hendersonville area for way too long. I lived through it, you did not.
     
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  13. gator_jo

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    I'm sorry that you didn't get the socialism that you wanted.

    But if you're going to attribute it to conspiracy theories, why stop there? Why not do that awesome racist lie from Trump that FEMA gave all the money to illegal immigrants? Go big, man.
     
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  14. citygator

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    I still can’t drive up 40 to get to my brothers house. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t adequate search and rescue, or that there weren’t hot meals given out in 6 locations I listed in Hendersonville for free, or that there wasn’t water and packaged food locations open 72 hours after the storm in 4 locations I listed, or that there were not 1,200 linemen flown in to repair electricity, or that there was not over 100 tons of trees removed by the state in western North Carolina.

    Instead of thanking those folks you continue to shit on them because you want to lie about being in some fantasy world where you were personally targeted to not get relief cuz you’re a right winger. You are a thankless human. It’s a shame you can’t see the charity from people you don’t know that got Hendersonville back on its feet.
     
  15. vaxcardinal

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    Perhaps if someone lives in an area of a town that wasn’t touched they would get the impression that nothing has been done
     
  16. redbass-510

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    So now you are accusing me of not being thankful for the linemen from all the states that came in? What is wrong with you? We applauded every truck……I saw charity from the locals all over. The only fema presence we saw was shower trailers in the Walmart parking lot. We were told to NOT go north to Asheville, homes and bodies floating down the river. We could not go south to SC. Trees blocking me roads. For the last time…..we, all our neighbors, the small business owners when power was restored, all asked where was federal help. You seem to be hell bent on saying I am a liar. That is your problem. Thankfully the locals and state resources supplied us when necessities were running out. Keep touting the greatness of FEMA who was absent. I’m tired of arguing with someone who doesn’t think rationally. I’m ending this waste of time now. Have a Merry Christmas.
     
  17. gatordavisl

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    Promise?