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My thoughts on the portal

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Dec 20, 2024 at 7:20 PM.

  1. freedomgator

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    This whole unlimited portal stuff sucks, but it appears the courts are going to do away with a lot of rules potentially including eligibility.
     
  2. grayg8rstevo

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    Yeah.
    The NIL, pay anything in your bidding war for talent, allow team chemistry to be held hostage every 90 days ( this is like high school football where you have to wait for the beginning of fall practice to see who has moved out of your district/ who decided they could get girls without getting your brains knocked out every day)..THAT is all about academic excellence.:confused:
    After watching the head of the NCAA act like a disinterested punk while explaining to Congress that women SHOULD NOT COMPLAIN about trans athletes ( those who take some hormones and grow their hair long but leave their junk intact) using the women’s locker room because the NCAA actually does send a memo ahead of time before any competition affected so the entire women’s team can make other arrangements ..
    Whew..:oops:
    We just know they will bring reason and accountability to our colllege TWILIGHT ZONE…yup.:eek:
     
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  3. tommyvee

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    Love how you took a simple topic straight to Too Hot lol
     
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  4. EbSaxman

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    All worth considering but all it takes is one judge who is a fan to rule that his favorite team gets an exception and it all falls apart again.
     
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  5. INGATORSWETRUST

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    They were talking about a QB the other day that will be transferring to his 5th team next year. That is what coaching with portal. Just make one simple change to require a player to sit out a season. Allow them to transfer, allow them to get paid, but make them sit out. Teams will be hesitant to pay a kid to sit for a year and kids will. Be hesitant to transfer when not allowed to play in year one.
     
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  6. 96Gatorcise

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    You would lose that in court. It's inhibiting a player from making a living. Sitting a year is never coming back in its past form.
     
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  7. Crusher

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    Why not? They pretty much abandoned any sense of academic integrity long ago.
     
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  8. Crusher

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    Bill, the NCAA tried that in 2023 and the legal eagles immediately sued, the NCAA was issued a temporary injunction and they tabled the rule. I think we've seen the end of any restrictions on transfers and the only thing that "might" slow down this NIL shopping madness is collective bargaining and long term contracts, and that will open up a whole different can of worms.
     
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  9. Crusher

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    The courts haven't ruled. Since they lost the Supreme Court case the NCAA has caved or settled at every roadblock. They are scared of their own shadow now and have lost almost all of their usefulness (if they had much to begin with).
     
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  10. okeechobee

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    Contracts are not a bad idea. The players would earn more giving their allegiance to one school for the duration of their college football playing days and the schools would get the loyalty they are seeking. If you want to run it like pro sports, then you need to run it like pro sports. Players could negotiate one opt out into their contracts. Then you have to look at a possible salary cap. Contracts and a cap might get us back to the essence of college football and get the players rightfully paid.

    The portal is a joke. In pro sports, players can't unilaterally elect to transfer themselves. They are beholden to the contract they signed. I have no problem with these young athletes getting paid. They should. But the NCAA acts like they don't understand how to run a pro sport. That's what this is now.
     
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  11. 4everaGator

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    Making the portal summer only seems to be the best solution.
     
  12. okeechobee

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    That would be a cosmetic change, at best. And then you have the issue of players being told they are no longer wanted having to stick out 5 or 6 months of class at a school that doesn't want them.
     
  13. iam4uf

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    Currently athletes must complete 20% of their coursework per year & take at least 6 credit hours per semester. If you transfer this gets reset due to credits not being accepted, etc. That focus on coursework creates only a weak tie to degree progress, which should be the goal.

    So, link transfer portal access to degree progress.

    Athletes would need to complete an AA Degree before they can enter the transfer portal for the first time. This would ensure that a basic level of academic achievement is attained before a transfer, providing a stronger academic foundation and making the transfer process more about advancing education rather than solely athletic opportunities.

    After securing an AA, athletes would need to complete a certain number of credit hours at their new school before they can transfer again or graduate. This could be set at a threshold like 30 credit hours, which would represent half of the upper-division work for a bachelor's degree.

    You also must be on track to graduate from a school (which used to require a certain number of credit hours earned at that school, not sure if it still does). This should limit a student-athlete to two transfers for a bachelor's degree.

    There would be an option for a third transfer in case of injury or redshirt. In this case you must be enrolled in a Masters degree program & taking sufficient coursework to attain that.

    This would ensure that athletes invest time in their academic progress at each institution, reducing the likelihood of using schools solely as stepping stones for athletic development. It would also encourage them to engage with the academic culture of the institution, potentially leading to better integration into campus life beyond sports.
     
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  14. Crusher

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    That would immediately be challenged in Court and undoubtedly the NCAA would fold up like a cheap suit after the injunction was issued.
     
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  15. Donzo

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    Yeah, this ship has sailed. None of this is going to happen.

    The NCAA played hardball by refusing to make significant changes to the system. They were challenged in court and have been eviscerated.

    The players now make the decisions.
     
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    Are you going to make coaches that take new jobs wait until May as well?
     
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    The classwork requirement is already in place & hasn't been challenged afaik. This would change the focus from classwork to degree attainment. Does UF still have degree attainment requirements in place for the general student population (they did when I went to school)? If so, why should it be different for student-athletes?
     
  18. Crusher

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    They do to my knowledge, but not sure that every school has them. Its the transfer in school that limits the ability for the student to transfer based on what credits have been earned (ex. you aren't transferring into the Chemistry program as a Jr. if you haven't even taken Chem 1 and 2). It isn't the NCAA that is requiring these limitations. I guarantee that some schools (cough, Bama, cough) would bend pretty much any internal transfer rule to get a good player. The NCAA can try to establish rules like this to govern transfers, but if it is more limiting than what a non-athlete can do, I seriously doubt it would withstand a court review. Even then would the NCAA actually tried to defend the rule?
     
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  19. grayg8rstevo

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    Lol..guilty your honor.
    After watching the head dude of the NCAA testify, one could expect the NCAA to wholeheartedly endorse wet tshirt night at all womens sports including the coaches.
     
  20. Crusher

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    Actually I endorse that idea! Probably be a moneymaker too, and you know the NCAA loves their greenbacks.