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So good to have Dr. Makary about to lead the FDA

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Dec 18, 2024.

  1. QGator2414

    QGator2414 VIP Member

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    Your ignorance is palpable. Seriously!

    You are completely missing the point on how to work to solve problems. But when you are trained by Big Medicine to treat symptoms and not the disease. I suppose I can understand why you are falling for it.
     
  2. mdgator05

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    I'm yet to hear another answer. Do you have something?
     
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    Are you really gullible enough that sticking "Big" in front of anything makes it bad? This guy works for Johns Hopkins. Hard to get "bigger medicine" than a medical school that owns a massive set of clinics and care providers and actually runs a health insurance company.

    Or does he not count as "Big Medicine" because he does Youtube videos about how terrible everything is (while, notably, still taking the money)?
     
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  4. CHFG8R

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    Baloney. Most of my doctors for most of my life were independent and owned their practices. The weren't Elon Musk (or IT startup) rich, but they did very well for themselves with things like investments in local housing/apartments, etc. The HCA's of the world - like most private equity scum - are all about extracting value from existing things. For instance (this is how HCA started). Buy 3 hospitals and close one down to make the other two more profitable. And lots of other neato stuff along those predatory lines.

    So, no, a situation where billing and insurance aren't nearly the burden and Dr's have the ability to become independent local businessmen is a much better system than having them become feckless employees of HCA and trash like Rick Scott.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    No, I dont think you really understand how problems work and the contradictions inherent in the things you say, you just say vague things and hope magic is real, so that doctors can get extremely rich while also having a humane healthcare system that is affordable. We would all love that, but there's a reason why the best and most affordable healthcare systems dont have doctors living in giant suburban McMansions and owning yachts.
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    I am not n expert in the field so would not make sense for me to recommend exact things. That said. As @CHFG8R mentioned Europe. We should have restrictions on ingredients. We should have regulations on the way foods are processed. We should have regulations on how foods are marketed to make sure the public has a full understanding of if a food is healthy.

    We don’t need government to invest. We need private companies to invest.

    Try watching the video. It will be rewarding…
     
  7. QGator2414

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    LOL!
     
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    Yes it would, as many, most of these “toxins” are legal. Additionally, for those which are not, laws and procedures are already in place to penalize the wrongdoers.

    So we have an existing regulatory agency who has approved toxins in the food supply, and fails to identify those in not compliance and enforce existing policy.

    To me, there are many red flags here
     
  9. CHFG8R

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    Wow, been down this road. They are hard to get used to and very hard to fall asleep when on, but man do I feel better when I do. I have to fall asleep and then put it on when I wake up a couple hours later. Insurance eventually denied it due to not using enough hours, even though I used it every night. I have an appt in January - and new insurance - so maybe I can do better this time. Because it REALLY makes a difference.

    P.S. My friend has the retainer and swears by it. Not sure if that would work for me as my issue is my shallow breathing.
     
  10. QGator2414

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    You are part of the problem. Ironically because the propaganda of Big Medicine.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    Ding! Ding! Ding! Now, let's apply that same sort of reasoning to all of your thoughts on the subject.

    Okay, I'll give you credit. There is at least a minimal level of specificity there.

    Some pretty big regulations. Going to require a lot of big government. Good luck with your plan to expand FDA regulatory powers. They tried to do that about 30 years ago to regulate the supplement industry. It didn't go well. But maybe if Republicans promote a big regulatory expansion, it will actually happen.

    Private companies will invest in whatever makes them more money. That is capitalism. If "healthy" makes them more money, they will invest in healthy. More likely, you will see a growing split, where "healthy" foods make money because food companies can charge huge markups for it, and where "unhealthy" foods are targeted at those who can't afford the upcharge. Pretty much like now.

    I doubt there is anything new in there. I don't watch hour long Youtube videos. I'll happily read scholarly output on the topic (and have read a bunch on related topics).
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    Wait, is Johns Hopkins the source of this propaganda from "Big Medicine?" Would that mean that you are a victim of it? Or is that only other people? It seems like you are back to thinking that you are an expert again...
     
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    There is no doubt the CPAP is the gold standard. That said. I would check with your insurance on coverage for a sleep appliance as well. There is a chance you might be able to get one paid for entirely by your insurance. Your sleep doctor might be able to get the pre determination for you. The sleep appliance will help open your airway when you sleep as a less intrusive alternative. Some want one to travel with as an alternative to carrying the CPAP with them. We should be up and running by February. I don’t know what our cash price will be but if you have medical there will almost certainly be coverage there. As we know then it comes down to your policy.

    The technology is really cool. We do not expect to have many revisions with where they got the technology now. $70K investment but should be able to help a lot of people! You are ahead of the game for a dentist in your area that understands the sleep side and makes appliances. As you certainly already have a diagnosis since you had a CPAP.

    Every time I hear someone say they can use a CPAP…they all say it is life changing the way they feel. So hopefully you can tolerate it as it sounds like you did notice the difference. I know the doctor we talked to in the beginning uses both. It was crazy seeing her airway mapped by the technology we invested in.
     
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  14. rump74

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    Sure. Abolish it.
     
  15. sierragator

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    So zero regulation of foods and drugs. What could possibly go wrong? Consequences be damned, there are profits to be made dammit. :rolleyes:
     
  16. mdgator05

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    Abolish what? Food? All regulation around food?
     
  17. sierragator

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    I guess someone wants a bunch of folks to die. Pro life stance?
     
  18. rump74

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    I disagree. Perhaps you think we need Big Gov to regulate Big Corp. I believe they are the same people. Big Gov hites what?....20-25 million people? The talented ones get lured away to lobby for Big Pander. 6 years later they are the director of the Dept of Grift. Theyre gangsters.
    At the very least, let states regulate it. That would be far from perfect but itd get it out of DC and allow for innovation. A large chunk of it could effectively be regulated by the free market.
     
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    Again, I think we disagree. You seem to believe its a proactive agency of integrity. I believe the exact opposite.
     
  20. sierragator

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    So 50 different sets of regs? Letting the free market sort it out without any regs at all results in people getting sick and dying from unsafe products. Carry on.