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Trump looks to privatize the Post Office

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Dec 16, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Privatization of government services is just another opportunity for corruption, its their brand
     
  2. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

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    And jack up the price for delivering junk mail
     
  3. Donzo

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    It’s become insanely inefficient, outdated and overwhelmed by entitled government graft/employees.

    For popularity, it’s 2024 not 1924.
     
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  4. vaxcardinal

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    Isn’t there a postal worker on this board or did they leave?
     
  5. g8orbill

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    My family member was in management and the stories he told us were maddening. At the end of each year if they had not spent their entire budget they gave out some pretty large bonuses to make sure it was all gone.
     
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  6. Donzo

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    2 to 4 day a week delivery cycle, depending on delivery cost, would work well. But, the entitled bureaucracy is entrenched.
     
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  7. Donzo

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    Opprotunity for corruption? WOW!

    I'll post the symbol for "corruption" below:

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  8. sierragator

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    They can skip a step and send the junk mail straight to the landfill. Transferring it myself from my mailbox to the garbage can has gotten old. It never makes it into the house.
     
  9. citygator

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    I wont miss it at all. I can pay a premium if I need to mail something. Otherwise, I’ll use email. A “Happy Birthday Mom!” text is actually easier.
     
  10. PetrolGator

    PetrolGator Lawful Neutral Premium Member

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    The only issue here is that there are still a lot of rural areas that rely on consistent mail.

    Maybe reduce daily mail to primarily package delivery?


    It’s like consistency reducing funding and personnel has a way of making things work worse…
     
  11. PITBOSS

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    Every time I see this comment I think of what air-travel security-check was like pre 9 /11.
     
  12. ThePlayer

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    I'm betting on Elon Musk over our current bloated bureaucracy.
     
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  13. Donzo

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    Is this slang for accountability and efficiency, then yes.

    If it's just more entitled bellyaching, then no.
     
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  14. exiledgator

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    The biggest impact for us would be the end to Christmas Cards. Something I won't lose much sleep over.

    The whole USPS outrage is hilarious to me. "I'm so mad it costs me $0.50 to mail a letter 5,000 miles!!"
     
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  15. Donzo

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    #spacex
     
  16. PetrolGator

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    I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.

    Accountability is independent of “failing to fill positions because of lack of funding” or [stupid political reason].

    Efficiency doesn’t always mean “do more with less.” It’s dependent on the mission and needed resources to do the service effectively. Optimization could involve reallocating resources, investing in areas that need attention, or really all of it. The problem is that y’all seem to conflate these concepts regularly.

    Example: Our permitting operations out of a very busy office kept falling behind. There were simply too many requests for too few people. Hiring two additional qualified engineers knocked review times something like 30% and within expectations from our stakeholders.

    Why were they understaffed? Budget cuts. How did we fill the roles? We finally got funding.
     
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  17. Donzo

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    Are you really calling the post office an understaffed workforce? Yeah, I'm the one that doesn't understand.
     
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  18. PITBOSS

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    agree. I fully don’t understand the usps model or their legal parameters but raise the price. $1.00 would still be roughly 1/10 what it would take to send via ups.

    with so much of our gov, isn’t there a workable compromise? Every person here gets there are inefficiencies as stated in the op. Analyze the biz and work in efficiencies/make cuts. Review if they should still offer pensions to new employees (do they?). Look at ways to streamline and raise the price if needed.

    I work for a large corp and have experienced reorgs, streamlining and rough periods of “right-sizing”.
     
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  20. l_boy

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    I could generally care less over the issue. Objectively the post office is really cheap to send non time sensitive parcels, to just about anybody in the country. If the post office is privatized chances are that will be gone.

    A lot of fuss is made over post office losing money. The reason has generally been having to recognize prior unaccounted for pension costs.

    But whatever, privatize it. Once again it will be republican rural voters who suffer, but perhaps it’s time they suffer the consequences of their actions.
     
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