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What about NC Joe

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Dec 3, 2024.

  1. BLING

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    The federal guvt should be delivering trailers to remote mountain lots? Eh.

    I think everyone with homes destroyed should be offered cash assistance or relocation assistance to get them through. But i don’t think it’s as simple as the feds just dropping trailers on people’s lots (on top of the logistics involved, the site where they’d want to drop a trailer might not be suitable given that we are talking mountain terrain, need to prep the homesite and have utility hookups for the trailer and have that all in place before orchestrating a delivery, and all that takes time and people…). There’s a practical reality there.

    Might be a better idea to just relocate folks. In FL you see impromptu FEMA trailer parks after storms, much easier to pull off than hauling a trailer up a mountain! From what I’ve read many of the “sleeping in tents” people were offered assistance, but don’t want to leave their half destroyed homes. The feds should definitely try to build some temporary housing, it just may not be practical to literally “deliver” that to individual locations esp given that if it isn’t already in place by winter the ability to deliver trailers bogs down even more or is impossible in some places if the roads are still not 100%.
     
  2. BLING

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    The “people living in tents” thing seems overblown or not even really true?

    Opinion: People living in tents — a real story, or a pretext for political outrage? • Asheville Watchdog

    Where are the tent dwellers? Flood victims living in tents may be a myth

    I don’t think it’s a total myth, I’ve seen accounts of people who simply didn’t want to leave their property even though their home was partially destroyed. So they declined to be relocated or take that type of assistance. But this was a month ago and supposedly the govt was working to get them something before winter hit. I’d wonder how many are still waiting. I’m sure it’s not zero, but the govt made relocation assistance available so if a person instead wants to wait it out on their own land isn’t that on them??? If the local sheriff wanted to force them out or condemn the property that could he done at a local level, but the feds aren’t going to go there.

    This is what makes no sense about some of our resident anti-govt folks. They go on about govt programs and FEMA, but now it isn’t good enough unless the government literally delivers a complete home directly onto a persons mountain property!? Make it make sense.
     
  3. citygator

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    Dude. Henderson is 45 minutes from Greenville where counters of fuel was available at Walmart and Academy. I know since I bought it 3 days after the storm. Food and water was available everywhere. Less than 1% of people out there had flood insurance and were wiped out. That’s what folks are pissed about and blaming the government for. Rebuilding is slow when you can’t pay for it. Get a grip.
     
  4. citygator

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    Lots of people didn’t have flood insurance and can’t rebuild. That’s the overriding issue. Availability of resources is a total joke. There’s plenty of emergency resources but no one is handing out $300k checks to rebuild.
     
  5. OklahomaGator

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    People probably didn't have flood insurance because they were not located in a designated flood zone. If they were it would be required for the mortgage.
     
  6. 1990Gator

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    The trailers are sitting a few miles away from my office in Hickory and one of my employees drives right by them on a daily basis to and from work.
     
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  7. 1990Gator

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    Operation Helo seems to have no problems delivering trailers and the ones I’ve seen being delivered are with GM trucks, not even Fords or Rams!
     
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    If it wasn't completely reduced to a mudhole, then the Dems will say it's not destroyed... These Dems don't care to acknowledge partial destruction by a hurricane. You should know how they roll by now.
     
  9. citygator

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    True. I am not blaming people for their misfortune, just stating a fact. The big issue out there right now is that lower income family homes were lost and those families have no way to financially rebuild because their homeowners insurance didnt cover flood damage. Very difficult.

    But it is baffling how anyone thinks the response was anything but a testament to American spirit.
     
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  10. rivergator

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    I can’t argue with that:star:
     
  11. citygator

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    Who needs pallets of water that cant get water? We ended up with too much basics. Folks need money and business.

    National Geographic: How Asheville travel is bouncing back after Hurricane Helene
     
  12. redbass-510

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    Good for Greenville SC. I have a grip, try to understand the words Hendersonville county. Why was Hendersonville county not helped after the storm? Looking for food, looking for gas for the generator? Thanks for the compassion.
     
  13. citygator

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    Ridiculous.

    Monday after the storm resource locations opened up at 9am every day in Henderson County at:
    • Etowah ElementarySchool
    • Rugby Middle School
    • East Henderson HighSchool
    • North Henderson High School
    • Mills River Town Hall
    • Fletcher Town Hall

    Henderson County started providing hot to-go meals twice a day at noon and 5 p.m. at four locations the Wednesday after the storm.
    • Etowah Elementary, 320 Etowah School Road, Etowah
    • East Henderson High, 150 Eagle Pride Dr, East Flat Rock
    • North Henderson High, 35 Fruitland Rd, Hendersonville
    • Mills River Town Hall, 124 Town Center Drive, Mills River
    The Salvation Army also served breakfast at 9 a.m. and dinner at 4 p.m. at 239 Third Avenue East in Hendersonville.

    In the immediate aftermath did the local Lowes and Home Depot run out of generators? Yep - but they delivered trucks by Monday to the area - my buddy orders that stuff for Lowes. The fact that a 45-minute drive is too inconvenient for fuel, something that is important enough to post on here about, says a lot. There were thousands of people who poured into the area to assist with recovery, aid, resources, and help. The fact that you shit on that effort is a hoot man. Next time they can bring you breakfast in bed.
     
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  14. BLING

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    It’s not uncommon to have to drive to find electricity or gas. With Charlie we were without electricity for a week and had to drive 30 minutes to get food and gas and some A/C (didn’t have a generator back then).

    With these latest storms we were lucky to not lose power. But Milton left a gas shortage in FL for a week due to port of Tampa being hit.

    NC was a different ballgame because that flooding took out a lot more roads than perhaps has ever been seen anywhere from any one event. In FL people from those destroyed areas aren’t “cut off” because they would have evacuated from coastal areas. In NC you had pockets of catastrophic damage all over the place, wherever the floodwaters raged including entire towns, but then other places that might be untouched if above the water line or if they didn’t see landslides.

    I was in NC in the days before the storm, and my impression was there was zero preparation happening. Not that there is much to do against that type of destructive force, but I don’t think “evacuating” is a thing like it is with people fleeing the coasts of FL. Really only in that last 24 hours did I get the impression some were realizing a serious flood was coming. Our vacation ended literally the day of the hurricane, pretty crazy seeing the damage done to the very roads we drove on, and from what I was told people had to be airlifted out of the community we stayed at because they had a few slides take their 1 main road out. I don’t think we’ve ever seen a system do such damage across such a broad geographic area. Usually the catastrophic damage is where that eyewall comes in and makes landfall, but with the reach of these huge storms it can now be hundreds of miles away.
     
  15. rivergator

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    So what does/can/should the federal govt do when someone's house is destroyed and they can't afford a new one. Put them up in a trailer for a few weeks, a year, forever? Build them a new home?
    Seriously, what?
    That wasn't directed just at you, btw. Just quoted you because you mentioned it too.
     
  16. redbass-510

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    Ok, Henderson county was FILLED with food water, and fuel for generators. NOT.
    so Henderson county was full of food, water, and fuel for generators. You are clueless. Did you try to drive down 225 toward Greenville with all those trees across the road? No. Why did so many stand in line wrapped around Publix if what you say was true? No fuel in the gas stations for miles? You get a grip. How many weeks did you have to live like that? Thankfully state and local tree removal crews showed up. FEMA did eventually show up, it hours to apply for help, many neighbors did and got $100.00 for help. Keep saying how wonder our government was in our time of need.
     
  17. gaterzfan

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    What do you think the federal government should do for the American citizens?
     
  18. rivergator

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    Obviously some help. My question was about replacing homes. I don’t know, that’s why I asked. Should we give them new homes if they had no insurance nor savings?
     
  19. OklahomaGator

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    No, you can't give new homes or everyone would drop their home insurance. You could provide low interest loans or a down payment where the US government holds a mortgage
     
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    Still want to know about NC, Bill? Well, here you go. While the entire video is pretty eye opening as it deals also with the truth about our departure from Afghanistan as well as disaster relief, forward to 10:29 and listen to Republican Representative Bob Good refusing to allocate even one more dollar to disaster relief. He even challenges the constitutionality of using federal dollars from middle America to help the "coastal elites" recover from a disaster.

    Biden sent an emergency funding bill to Congress in mid-November. It's not scheduled for a vote. That's what's happening in (redacted) North Carolina. The people in need are the political prisoners of Speaker Mike Johnson & Company. This is 100% on the Pubs in the House.



    https://www.politico.com/live-updat...hin-reach-shutdown-disaster-spending-00194071
     
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