Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Hi there... Can you please quickly check to make sure your email address is up to date here? Just in case we need to reach out to you or you lose your password. Muchero thanks!

Trump in France

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by okeechobee, Dec 7, 2024.

  1. DawgFanFromAlabam

    DawgFanFromAlabam GC Hall of Fame

    2,392
    310
    308
    Apr 18, 2007
    OK When Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

    Retired Marine 4 star general and Trump’s COS confirmed the remark. I’ll believe him.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  2. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    9,177
    2,146
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    Did I not say I could understand why you would believe him? I just said it is not an established fact, and there was evidence against the accusation just as there was evidence for it.
     
  3. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,478
    1,208
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    I think it just adds up to someone not liking Trump. Fair game. Me ? I don’t like people who give the orders that fill cemeteries like the one in question.
     
  4. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,837
    1,420
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Sure we all have, but none of us have ever served as POTUS. As POTUS, every word spoken aloud in the presence of others carries an implied risk, even if the POTUS is having a casual conversation about college football (for example). Trump, recognizing this, isn't going to make such an awful and disrespectful comment (in the presence of military brass, no less) about U.S. Marines who perished over 100 years ago fighting WW1. Most of them were drafted anyway, so it's not like they had a say in whether they were there in the first place.

    The entire thing makes no sense. The Atlantic reported this first and it appears they were attempting to portray the idea that Trump, by not attending the event at the cemetery in France, didn't really want to be there. Which was false, because the Secret Service would not have been able to secure the road due to the heavy rain and fog. So they seized upon his not attending and laced it with this BS. As if he's going to go to all the trouble to travel to France and skip out on the ceremony, because he has nothing better to do but sit in his hotel room in France.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  5. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,837
    1,420
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Disinformation. CNN independently reported the heavy rain was present. It would have been impossible for the Secret Service to properly secure the road.

    CNN reporters in France during the President’s visit reported that local weather reports indicated there was a low ceiling and heavy rain in the area of the cemetery, and authorities at the time said there was not time to organize French security to cover a long motorcade route.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/05/politics/trump-marines-cemetery-france/index.html
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  6. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    89,022
    26,846
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    The communist News network inventing lies... News at 11:00, Lol...
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  7. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,837
    1,420
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Amazing to me that it isn't questioned more by a certain faction, but as I've said here before, many people want to be lied to.
     
  8. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,837
    1,420
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    In this case, CNN corroborated the heavy rain was present, which would have made the helicopter flight too dangerous and they corroborated the French authorities (in tandem with the USSS) couldn't secure the long road for arrival by motorcade.
     
  9. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    89,022
    26,846
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    That's the point, to them, even in heavy rain there was no perceived danger in their view. Before and after their lies, they still can't seem to get their stories to make sense.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    16,478
    1,208
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    No joke. Witness the Ukraine thread.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  11. DawgFanFromAlabam

    DawgFanFromAlabam GC Hall of Fame

    2,392
    310
    308
    Apr 18, 2007
    The irony here is delicious.
     
  12. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    10,837
    1,420
    678
    Sep 11, 2022
    Almost as delicious as being a Georgia fan, living in Alabama and posting on a Gator political forum. I’d say you’re more than naive if you believe Trump said that. Especially after the “51 intelligence officers” lie that the POTUS just had to pardon his son over. But again, I don’t want to get in the way of your love fest for by whatever means necessary. Knock yourself out.
     
  13. DawgFanFromAlabam

    DawgFanFromAlabam GC Hall of Fame

    2,392
    310
    308
    Apr 18, 2007
    Well I lived in Alabama when I joined this board around 2007. Since then have lived in Florida and last 9 years back in GA. I enjoy internet conversations on numerous boards.

    As the poet laureate of Florida once said (and I paraphrase) “Listen it don't really matter to me, You believe what you want to believe.”