I very much started getting French Revolution vibes with this news. Been saying for years the growing wealth gap was unsustainable for Democracy.
I’m relatively certain there will be copycats. A lot of Americans feel utterly powerless to make their lives better as they also see the rich grow richer. There’s palpable anger on the right and left and plenty of firearms in the country. Interesting times. :/
I couldn't afford any of it. I didn't get fully reimbursed because I lost nearly $2k of the retainer. I stiffed the hospital until I could pay it off. (they still have to admit you regardless) I weighed under 130 lbs at 5'11" at the age of 21 working and schooling with next to no sleep. It's never enough though is it? I can't fathom what makes a person politicized to the point where cold blooded murder is celebrated. In your world, even the victims of insurance fraud are denigrated if they don't trade their humanity for psychotic ends.
Not to super derail the thread. But I feel quite certain that's why Trump won in 2016, and less so in 2024. It's misplaced and misguided, but I think it's an all around sense of being pissed off at the the state of everything.
You're missing the point a bit. The cheering and the quiet approval is the Marxist flavor. Marxism simply lays out that the foregone conclusion of a capitalist society is that the capitalists will keep consolidating wealth until the oppressed and wronged working class rises up. I actually 100% agree with him. The reason we havent had that happen is because up until the last few decades the wealth was more proportionately spread and the worker protections kept improving. Now they are both going backwards. We will see. They are pissed enough to elect a total joke of a person for President.
I’m not sure if it’s just “politics” here. A lot of folk (rightly) feel like the upper class simply can buy themselves out of trouble and accountability while they suffer. I’m not stating that it’s a good thing to gun down CEOs, but it’s important to properly understand why. I still think that this is the first in many such targeted killings. There will be copycats.
Trump’s massaging out a populist message is precisely what got him in the WH. That anger and frustration is real and not without merit. The fact he’s a billionaire who routinely bragged about stiffing contractors and breaking unions was… merely a side note.
Losing a loved one? And the perception that some corporate creeps did it so they could stick another quarter in their pocket?
You really cant understand why a culture that celebrates violent ends to tyranny would react this way to the violent death of a tyrant? This country was built on retributive violence, thats what the guns people say guns are for! Nothing more American than this guy getting shot by someone he screwed over.
I dont think he nationalized UHC by killing him, so not quite. This is just what capitalism looks like in a country with little democracy to check the rich and powerful.
we don’t know what we can’t see, and it’s all life, not just the animate. You can’t have the animate without the inanimate fueling it. I don’t discount a potential unifying force of it all, but I am not going to debate whether it was the God humans contrived a couple of thousand years ago.
Right before the masses rise up against the rich and powerful. You're both right. That said, seems like the masses here want a crony capitalist right-wing dictatorship more than anything else, if the recent election results are indicative.
bread and circuses, or in our case big screen tv's, lifted trucks, sports, social media. Let them eat cake will catch up if trends continue though.
"Masses" seems to be the thing people are overlooking. Marxism supposes broad class consciousness. Perhaps people are developing that, but this is just one guy killing a person that has power over him, which can happen anywhere a person can get a gun easily. IMO, as much as people celebrate guns, they are more a tool of reactionaries to keep the powerful in charge, not to take them down. America is full of bootlickers who worship power. Things could get interesting if Musk and the SCOTUS make the NLRA/NLRB unconstitutional. If you see violent labor related clashes and union activity is more radical as the law is turned against them, then I will buy more into the Marxism thesis. That is the sort of thing where class consciousness is unavoidable, when the government sends the cops to beat illegal strikers.
