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Mexico president Sheinbaum agrees to stop migration through Mexico to the United States.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatormonk, Nov 27, 2024.

  1. PITBOSS

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  2. BLING

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    If there is a dispute of facts between “side XYZ” and Trump, the default case really has to be to believe side XYZ unless hard evidence suggests otherwise.

    This includes interactions even with governments we might have normally considered compromised or corrupt. It’s a sorry state of affairs for sure, but it is what it is.

    This one isnt even hard. Do you really think we are “effectively closing our Southern border”??? Like… you think the Mexican President agreed to that in any way? Hell forget the Mexican President, it could be a Mexican cartel “spokesperson” talking directly about the drug trade and I’d still have my doubts as to which “side” to believe.
     
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  3. tilly

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    I literally said that one already has the track record of lying.

    I just think its silly to have some blanket belief of a person we know very little about.

    Trumps lies dont make her words true.
    Kamala told a bunch of whoppers. Trump's idiocy didnt make her words true.

    But when I pointed out several of her blatant lies i got the whole "bOtH sIdEs" crap too.

    Sorry. I just see both sides as eternally corrupt at this point. The fact that one side is more obnoxious (insert word of choice) about it doesnt mean I can't call out the other.

    Frankly, you of all people seem to think a bit like me when it comes to giving either side credit.

    Don't get soft on me now. ;)
     
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  4. gator_jo

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    That was as witty as all of your awesome feeble failed insult attempts! Happy Thanksgiving!
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    Bro. You're trying to go all Johnny Cochrane on us - "a little bulls*** here, a little bulls*** THERE!" - in order to.........

    .......yes, you guessed it - "both sides" the issue!!

    In fact, well, as you can see from the quote, those are your exact words. :)


    Let's stick to what we've actually seen with our own eyes for the past 8+ (really about 30) years; Donald Trump lies more than any politician we've seen in, well, truly in modern political history.

    So, again; NO, NOT BOTH SIDES. If there is ever anyone worth disbelieving, it's Donald Trump.
     
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  6. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Take a break sweetheart…
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  7. Orange_and_Bluke

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    You make a good point…finally.
    It’s not equally both sides. It’s mostly crazy from the left.
    And I concur.
     
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  8. gator_jo

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    Indeed.

    Also; "They're eating the dogs!! They're eating the cats!!"
     
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  9. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Trump is so much in your head.
    LOL
     
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  10. gator_jo

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    Trump has left a long embarrassing history, from which it will always be easy to mock him with the utmost of total derision. And anyone who supports him.
     
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  11. demosthenes

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    I agree, none of us know. I do know the two respective parties (we have business in Mexico) so I’d wager a significant portion of my life savings on the conversation tracking much, much closer to Sheinbaum’s statements. She has stood firm in the face of stiff opposition to her values and she has an engineering mind, coming from a family of engineers and having a PhD in electrical engineering herself.
     
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  12. Orange_and_Bluke

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    How good does it feel to be so much smarter than half the country?
    We’re all amazed.
     
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  13. gator_jo

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    Pretty good usually.

    Not so good when the other half elects a rapey criminal traitor, because they're too economically illiterate to sort through his laughable lies.

    So I guess it's mixed.
     
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  14. AgingGator

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    I guess I should wish you a Happy Thanksgiving as well, albeit late. If you’re as pleasant around family and friends as you are around here you probably had Thanksgiving dinner by yourself.
     
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  15. BLING

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    Your argument doesn’t even make sense.

    You’ve already admitted to viewing one party as a habitual liar. You state we lack the evidence this Mexican President is similarly a habitual liar. So how can the conclusion be “hold on, both sides are liars”? I distrust Trumps take because Trump is a pathological liar, not because of a “blanket belief” in the words of the… {checks notes}… Mexican President. Hell, I rolled my eyes at Trump’s message before the Mexican president ever said anything.
     
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  16. gator_jo

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    Ouch - you got me good!! That one really hurt. Well done!!

    If you're as witty and informative in person as you are here, people fought savagely to find seats at the table while you regaled diners with your deep insights as to why a rapey criminal traitor should be President of the United States.

    Of course, they made sure it was a table in a different room than the one you were in.
     
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  17. Orange_and_Bluke

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    That makes sense. Checks out.
    You do seem confused.
     
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  18. gator_jo

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    Insult fail. Even you have to admit that that was thoroughly devoid of both humor and wit.

    Stick to GIFs?
     
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  20. GatorJMDZ

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    You've captured the true holiday spirit.
     
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