Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!
  1. Hi there... Can you please quickly check to make sure your email address is up to date here? Just in case we need to reach out to you or you lose your password. Muchero thanks!

Jack Smith moves to dismiss case sgainst Trump

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Nov 25, 2024.

  1. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    21,432
    1,783
    1,763
    Apr 8, 2007
    The title of article is a quote from Trump, not exactly a credible source. This also from the same article:
    "That (the FBI) then went forward with a search warrant shows the level of concern they had that anything less than a search would not result in the complete retrieval of all remaining classified records," said Bradley Moss, a Washington-based lawyer who works on national security cases. Trump was given far more leeway than most Americans, experts told us, and could have avoided the search with full cooperation. "There's no legal requirement for the FBI to proceed via subpoena or to ask nicely. It's well within their rights to go to a judge and get a search warrant," said Neama Rahmani, a former prosecutor and president of West Coast Trial Lawyers in California, who described Trump as "partially cooperative at best" with the government.

    "Trump and his associates have not been cooperative," said Michael Gerhardt, a law professor at the University of North Carolina, who said the argument made by Trump and Crenshaw "makes no legal sense" because items the government was seeking were ultimately found in Trump’s possession.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  2. diehardgator1

    diehardgator1 VIP Member

    6,206
    197
    418
    Apr 3, 2007
    What are you taking that you could recommend.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  3. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    32,420
    12,161
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    Healthy dose of reality 2x daily. Best if not taken on an empty stomach.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  4. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    32,420
    12,161
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    So you have no interest in knowing the facts? Yes, with a judge following the law or unlimited time, he would have been convicted based on the evidence. Any rational person being honest with themselves acknowledges that.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  5. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    18,196
    6,161
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    No, it's not. But I'll accept your lack of response as a concession. Trump shouldn't have to face the same legal system other folks do. Because only normal people are compelled to deal with the politics of our prosecutorial and carceral policy. Because he, like certain other powerful and wealthy people, is treated as above the law. You support that. I don't.
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
  6. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,955
    848
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    I think we’ve seen enough Trump investigations. And I’ve had enough of Democrats trying to obstruct a public official from doing his job through lawfare. Time to let the man do what he was elected to do.
     
    • Come On Man x 3
    • Agree x 1
    • Funny x 1
    • Winner x 1
    • Wish I would have said that x 1
    • Best Post Ever x 1
  7. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,830
    240
    193
    Aug 9, 2024
    Books. Newspapers. Magazines.

    Give 'em a shot - you'll feel better.
     
  8. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    32,420
    12,161
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    So you have made up your mind and don't care about the facts. MAGA credentials check
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  9. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    6,955
    848
    2,103
    Dec 6, 2015
    No, I don’t consider allegations from the boy who cried wolf to be credible.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  10. Gator515151

    Gator515151 GC Hall of Fame

    22,553
    1,017
    1,763
    Apr 4, 2007
    You forgot to add MSNBC to that list. We all know that is one of your major news sources.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  11. DawgFanFromAlabam

    DawgFanFromAlabam GC Hall of Fame

    2,392
    310
    308
    Apr 18, 2007
    So it just depends who the gun is pointing at i guess…
     
  12. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,830
    240
    193
    Aug 9, 2024
    Let's be clear about you disparaging ANY news sources: you support candidates who are in open collaboration with news sources that have had to pay settlements, up to appx $800 million, for knowingly spreading defamatory lies.

    So the only news sources you should EVER disparage are the one you read. If those actually even exist.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  13. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

    14,339
    22,646
    3,348
    Sep 27, 2007
    Bug Tussle NC
    As far as ability to turn a phrase this one is as good as Agnew’s Nattering nabobs of negativism.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

    126,093
    57,364
    114,663
    Apr 3, 2007
    Clermont, Fl

    I do not recall him ever saying that in the conversation, where he said you could grab them by the P. J.O., Trump is my age and I have no idea of your age but I can tell you this was common language in the mens locker rooms when I grew up and even at the UF Frat houses in the 70's. Since this seems to be so offensive to you, I can only assume that you are against males who pretend to be females being allowed in women's locker rooms as well.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,830
    240
    193
    Aug 9, 2024
    Weird subject change to transgenderism.

    That aside, I don't know what kind of people you used or, or do, hang out with. But I can guarantee you that nobody in my fraternity would have been made to feel comfortable bragging about how they sexually assault women. In fact, they very well might have had their ass beat.

    Your experiences may be different? I couldn't know. What was it like, this?
    - "I grab 'em by the ***** without asking!"
    - "Me too! I walk up to women and just grab their tits!!"

    Ya....I can honestly say that someone in my house would have been severely socially ostracized or otherwise "adjusted" for that.... or punched in the face.

    Now, apply that to someone in their damn 50s, on their third (adulterous) marriage.
     
  16. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,830
    240
    193
    Aug 9, 2024
    I gotta say, man, and I don't mean this to be rude.... but do you actually go out of your way to not know the actual facts in these things? Such as what he actually said?

    How in God's name is this not totally reprehensible to you? And yet here you are defending it. In fact, how is not a 110% deal breaker for receiving a vote for, well, ANYTHING?

    Here, in case you are actually unaware, is what the 50ish married Trump said;


    Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and f*** her, she was married."

    Trump: "....She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. ...."

    Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

    Trump: "Grab them by the *****. You can do anything."
     
  17. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

    126,093
    57,364
    114,663
    Apr 3, 2007
    Clermont, Fl
    in the 60's and 70's that was a normal conversation amongst guys and not one of us ever that about it being sexual assault

    however, who Trump slept with is none of my business- I care about how he will run the country, but I ask you then how could you support and vote for kammie? She whored herself out to a married man as well to get what she wanted.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  18. diehardgator1

    diehardgator1 VIP Member

    6,206
    197
    418
    Apr 3, 2007
    I have. Trump is the man for the next 4 years. Praise the Lord
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  19. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

    1,830
    240
    193
    Aug 9, 2024
    That's sexual assault, bro.

    I guess you're just saying it's no big deal to you. At least you make it clear.

    Got any daughters, granddaughters or female family members? Got no problem with someone grabbing them by the..... you know?
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  20. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    25,359
    2,700
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    You crack me up sometimes when you go full MAGA.

    Kamala Harris won the 2014 California Attorney General race 4,102,649 to 3,033,474 votes. How many of those 4 million voters are you suggesting she slept with? She won the 2016 Senate race 7,542,753 to 4,701,417 votes. How many of those 7.5 million voters did she sleep with? Men and women? She won damn elections, she wasn't appointed by sex partners. She just didn't win those races, she destroyed her opponents.

    Trump sexually assaulted raped a woman as determined in a court of law...full stop.