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hhpgator · Nov 15, 2024

GatorPlanet said: ↑

As long as the rules are in place, of course they should adhere to them. I hope they declare ineligible any UGA player receiving direct pay from UGA. If the rules change, then so be it.
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The NCAA no longer has teeth. They’ll roll over and change the rules to match the states before they eat another giant L in court.

GatorPlanet · Nov 15, 2024

hhpgator said: ↑

The NCAA no longer has teeth. They’ll roll over and change the rules to match the states before they eat another giant L in court.
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The rule-followers can then bring suit against the NCAA to force it to follow its own rules and immediately declare ineligible any UGA athletes on the payroll. It would be fun theater at the very least.

jeffphillips21 · Nov 15, 2024

GatorPlanet said: ↑

The rule-followers can then bring suit against the NCAA to force it to follow its own rules and immediately declare ineligible any UGA athletes on the payroll. It would be fun theater at the very least.
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And an automatic 2 SEC wins for us, which likely would have happened regardless

GatorPlanet · Nov 16, 2024

We're moved up to #17 in KenPom.

grant1 · Nov 20, 2024 at 12:34 PM

Seems like the team is reading these press clippings as well

jeffphillips21 · Nov 20, 2024 at 2:18 PM

Yes we've dropped to #22 in KenPom but it's not unheard of to have a letdown game like this. Most of our misses were from Condo and Urban. Condo missed bunnies he normally makes (and should have if he took it up strongly of pump-faked) and Urban missed by 1-2 inches each time. Some of those go in and we're talking about a much bigger margin of victory.

The true test will be in the next games leading up to and including UNC before we get into league play. I think it's great that Urban got some meaningful reps and Brown had a couple confidence-building shots, so when we get Sam and Denzel back we are that much deeper and stronger. This was just one of those games where the air was out of the building, the team played without fire, the shots didn't fall and FAMU isn't quite as horrible as their early record indicated. We'll bounce back.

g8tr80 · Nov 20, 2024 at 3:09 PM

jeffphillips21 said: ↑

Yes we've dropped to #22 in KenPom but it's not unheard of to have a letdown game like this. Most of our misses were from Condo and Urban. Condo missed bunnies he normally makes (and should have if he took it up strongly of pump-faked) and Urban missed by 1-2 inches each time. Some of those go in and we're talking about a much bigger margin of victory.

The true test will be in the next games leading up to and including UNC before we get into league play. I think it's great that Urban got some meaningful reps and Brown had a couple confidence-building shots, so when we get Sam and Denzel back we are that much deeper and stronger. This was just one of those games where the air was out of the building, the team played without fire, the shots didn't fall and FAMU isn't quite as horrible as their early record indicated. We'll bounce back.
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You know you are probably pretty good when you have to “bounce back” from a 24 point victory. The next few games should be a lot of fun and very telling. Go Gators!

jeffphillips21 · Nov 20, 2024 at 6:12 PM

g8tr80 said: ↑

You know you are probably pretty good when you have to “bounce back” from a 24 point victory. The next few games should be a lot of fun and very telling. Go Gators!
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very true. Always take the win no matter how ugly

rserina · Nov 21, 2024 at 9:42 AM

jeffphillips21 said: ↑

Yes we've dropped to #22 in KenPom but it's not unheard of to have a letdown game like this. Most of our misses were from Condo and Urban. Condo missed bunnies he normally makes (and should have if he took it up strongly of pump-faked) and Urban missed by 1-2 inches each time. Some of those go in and we're talking about a much bigger margin of victory.

The true test will be in the next games leading up to and including UNC before we get into league play. I think it's great that Urban got some meaningful reps and Brown had a couple confidence-building shots, so when we get Sam and Denzel back we are that much deeper and stronger. This was just one of those games where the air was out of the building, the team played without fire, the shots didn't fall and FAMU isn't quite as horrible as their early record indicated. We'll bounce back.
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Not even sure I would describe this as a “letdown.” It’s basketball. Sometimes shots don’t go down. We were without two rotation players, which is not insignificant. We had a 24 pt lead at the half and had more than doubled their output. We took (and missed) way too many threes in the second half. And, as you said, probably the most competitive guy on the team, Condon, had the worst shooting night of his career in terms of missed shots. That has nothing to do with a letdown or with him “reading his own press.”

If just a handful of additional shots go down in the second half, we win by 35, and no one bats an eyelash. But that’s hoops.

jeffphillips21 · Nov 21, 2024 at 1:14 PM

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Not even sure I would describe this as a “letdown.” It’s basketball. Sometimes shots don’t go down. We were without two rotation players, which is not insignificant. We had a 24 pt lead at the half and had more than doubled their output. We took (and missed) way too many threes in the second half. And, as you said, probably the most competitive guy on the team, Condon, had the worst shooting night of his career in terms of missed shots. That has nothing to do with a letdown or with him “reading his own press.”

If just a handful of additional shots go down in the second half, we win by 35, and no one bats an eyelash. But that’s hoops.
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Yes down 2 players but what I was referring to was the lack of intensity and energy, at least I didn't see it when I was watching. It was a very ho-hum game for the most part, like the air was out of the building. Yes we did have a 24-point halftime lead and victory but against a team we were favored by 35.5 points. It was far too close early on (came out sloppy and gave up too many boards) and we didn't extend the lead in the 2nd half.

Granted, it's tough to get up for a game like this and being down 2 isn't easy, but I'm of the bring the same intensity level every game, no matter who's playing or who the opponent is mindset. Am I nit-picking? Yes. But I'm sure CTG was as well. Have to come out against a team like this and put them away early. You never know if someone is going to get hurt playing extended minutes they shouldn't have to against an opponent like FAMU

fox · Nov 21, 2024 at 3:00 PM

About leadership...like last year, Richard is the one talking in the huddles. I admire him and he looks to have improved some but wish we had a leader with a bit more fire. Clayton and Martin are quiet types. Clayton as a vocal leader would probably help in games like this one and tougher ones in conference and tourney. Also Mark Wise and Patric Young were talking about how tough Donovan was after lackluster games and I hope we have the same thing going on now.

gulfgator · Nov 21, 2024 at 5:04 PM

UF's win against JU looks better now, after they just beat VaTech on the road.

GatorPlanet · Nov 21, 2024 at 6:59 PM

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UF's win against JU looks better now, after they just beat VaTech on the road.
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Nice win, Dolphins!

potomacgator · Nov 22, 2024 at 12:28 AM

Also, USF beat Portland today.

jeffphillips21 · Nov 23, 2024 at 6:29 PM

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Looking at our boxes through 3 games, our 3-point shooting is the glaring weak spot, but I don't think it's as weak as it looks. Will Richard is not making his but we all know he can shoot it. I don't know for sure and it's something for the staff to look at, but it appears to me that he's putting too much arc on his shots, and on very high shots there's a greater distance of travel for the ball and more likelihood for it to be off. So when (if) he starts hitting at the rate we know he can, our perimeter shooting will be not be a liability.
Fingers crossed, anyway.
This Friday against FSU will be a good time for him to light it up.
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we came back with a vengeance on the 3pt shooting, thanks to Martin and Haugh. what a night for both.

exiledgator · Nov 23, 2024 at 7:23 PM

Seems we have two good teams again

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