Trump has posted a very clear message. Education belongs in the state. Here are his ten key ideas which he will hand back to the states, so no idea yet what he thinks the Fed will do. How will funds be disbursed to the states without any Department of Education to oversee the use of the funds? Or is Trump eliminating the budget and telling the states to figure out how to fund… through rising state taxes?! 1. Respectful rights of parents to control education. 2. Empower parents and local school boards to reward principals and teachers. Your Fired! 3. No political indoctrination. Focus on teaching or Reading, Writing, Math, Science, Arithmetic… and other truly useful subjects 4. Love “their country”. 5. Support bringing back prayer in schools 6. Safe schools. Immediate expulsion. 7. School choice 8. Access to project based education 9. All students have access to internships and work experience 10. Head start to jobs.
It sounds like “common sense” because it’s basically 10 empty platitudes. Like… how do you get *all students* access to meaningful internships? Define “head start to jobs”? If it can’t he defined, then it’s just nonsense. Someone already pointed out the funny conflict between 3 and then 4 and 5.
This list aside, Ive long questioned the need for the DOE. I'm not enough of a wonk to come up with proper alternatives, but it seems like there could be a path to cut costs and improve outcomes. Is that path simply the complete elimination of the department, or a scaling down of its scope, I can't say. I do worry that some states may fall off a cliff without clear goals.
So then there is this he announced a year ago. This is an example of a really great idea. He basically wants to replicate Khan Academy with accreditation for free and stick it to higher Ed bloated fees. Online is not for everyone, but education is the great equalizer. Wish he would focus more on this type of stuff.
You want him to focus more on what type of stuff? Worrying about what students at private colleges are saying? Beyond that, you really don't see any contradiction here? Just focus on useful academics, nothing political. But make sure you include patriotism and prayer?
It’s about money and allocation of resources. The admin is to ensure hand outs to states are based on something. If the answer is leave it to the states to tax their residents, lots of low tax states are going to get the shaft. The formation of the Dept of Ed wasn’t that long ago — 1979. The idea of national standards is reasonable. The idea of enforcing federal level civil rights on states is sound. Once you have school choice and local tax dollars allocated to private schools, the self segregation will happen. It’s going to be a bump road.
Nope. I am just providing information to discuss. Since you asked, here is my pov: 1. religion is not part of education. The establishment clause is clear. It should be out of the discussion. 2. patriotism is a two way street. There is room for education on civics, singing some patriotic songs, and also room at the HS level for a deeper discussion on history and teaching children some idea of the struggles of our country. I don’t see it as lying to elementary school kids. I see it as formative years should be more positive and less weighty on their psychology. 3. Woke agenda. I don’t get it personally. The public schools I have my kids in are not indoctrinated. They have meaningful relationships with all sorts of people and are not caught up in one political view than another. However, TikTok is a greater threat than school teachers. I am not advocating the end of that video with the editorial. I should have said that in the OP. I disagree with the idea of pushing it back to the states. It will be a significant impact.
Off topic, but imagine if Kamala had cut just one video like this. Discussing specific policy initiatives. Perhaps if Trump helps improve our level of education, we can get back to a true competition of ideas in our elections instead of “I’m not him.”
Won’t states have plenty of incentive to outperform other states if the funding is performance based? It is not 1979 anymore. What state is going to want to be known for saying “f it”? That happens now, only because states aren’t held accountable. They aren’t worried about losing funding under the current system.
Public education will die in those states. Wealthy go private. Poor stay poor. That might be the end game. Also, no data means no rankings and no comparability.
Further the divide. This isn’t a black or white issue. This is a 1% / 99% issue that is going to bite.
The current method isn’t working for those states either. The rankings haven’t moved much over the years and conditions in public schools have only worsened. If we actually had results which suggested DOE was a worthwhile endeavor, I’d be more hesitant to bust it up. I’m personally still a believer in public education. In the end, it’s the locals who have to keep their government honest. It’s impossible to do at the Fed level.
To be clear though, the votes arent there to abolish the DoE, we are basically just talking about the basic Republican thing of neglect of government agencies (like when DeVos was in charge). And my guess is they will find things they like to use the DoE for as they did then.
There is a reality of white and Asian flight. There is also a wealthy flight from public schools. The new self segregation is same as separate but equal in a more sinister way. Leaving this to the states is going to backfire on the employers. Public education is the greatest subsidy to business of all time. The reduction in qualified workers will only mean business costs will rise to find resources.
There is also this. I can find it on YouTube or the original source. I ignored the editorial since he doesn’t say a thing about race. But the point of endowment taking and elimination of certain public higher education schools is a bold take. Most colleges are changing to be focused on first time college and the poor. Race seems to be taboo now. In case you missed it President-elect #Trump has shared he's in favor of #reparations - for white people he says are discriminated against by endowments... | By Lisa | Facebook
Curious to see how they actually do this. Like, operationally. Even with congressional approval to shut down DOE, other government agencies would have to carry out its responsibilities (i.e., managing student loans, administering existing funding streams, etc.). I don't think this would have a meaningful effect on the federal education footprint, because the DOEs programs would still exist in federal law. Trump would have to ask Congress to revoke them or to zero out funding for them. And when you consider that this funds 12% of public education and about 250 billion in higher education loans and grants per year, that doesn't seem realistic.
