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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by TheGator, Nov 9, 2024.

  1. okeechobee

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    If they thought it was going to result in an easy pathway to citizenship, they might.
     
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  2. okeechobee

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    Who thinks voter ID would eliminate the two to three week counts? It is completely unacceptable in this era to have a state with 1/3 of its vote still outstanding a week after the election. We invented the iPhone, ffs. Requiring voter ID makes vote counting a lot easier. So one of the reasons Dems push back on voter ID is because it closes up that extended count loophole.
     
  3. philnotfil

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    How does voter ID make vote counting easier?
     
  4. archigator_96

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    Not sure why this matters if there are states out there that don't require photo id but also voted for Trump. And there are some.
     
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  5. slocala

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    The debate about voter ID made sense before pictures. How they voted before 1920 (when photo based driver’s licenses first were used)? Before you answer, it was poll taxes, literacy tests, poll worker knowledge of the person, and sworn affidavits

    It’s 2024. People should be able to use id.me and other technologies to prove who they are and the eligibility.

    If you need an id to buy a gun (another right), seems like we can figure this out. Elon should be able to get this in place in a few days. Grandma and the poor in rural areas should have drones that fly by, take a picture, and send your voter id in the mail. Vote by mail requires a signature. That is antiquated. It should be a digital token. For the poor who have no phone, no car, or no way to get an id, there are plenty of young kids looking for a college essay topic to write about how they created a system to get photo ids for the poor and elderly. Why are these smart Asian kids so focused on saving the world from Co2. Save the world from disenfranchisement.
     
  6. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    because most states with ID requirements don’t spend time doing manual signature verification
     
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  7. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    So I’m in Colorado

    we’re basically 100% mail-in ballots here

    it’s generally a good system, but does need some changes, imo

    for example, ballots are sent to the address on record for every registered voter for every election

    The process, I think, should require a request for a ballot. It doesn’t need to be 100% on the voter… a message could go out to the voter weeks ahead of the election asking the voter if a) they’d like to receive a ballot, and b) where it should be sent.

    we also use ballotrax.

    I am notified when my completed ballot has been received, and when my vote has been “recorded.” What I can’t see is how my vote(s) have been recorded. Why can’t I get a report on that? (ie “you voted for X, Y, Z candidates)

    anyway, many people here believe that the mass sending of ballots makes ballot harvesting easy (it does… visit the garbage can at any apartment complex mailbox area) and many people have little faith in the signature verification system.
     
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  8. citygator

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    I just want my drivers license on my phone so I can leave wallet behind. Everywhere takes apple pay now.
     
  9. philnotfil

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    Pennsylvania, Utah, Arizona, and Nevada are listed as having Voter ID requirements, but are still counting. As well as small pockets of Mississippi, Nebraska, and Wisconsin, which are also states listed as having Voter ID requirements. I'm not seeing any connection here between voter ID and how long it takes to count votes.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    Florida Smart ID - Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles

    had to use this to get son an airplane in Alaska when he lost his license.

    other thing I learned, airlines recognize a valid prescription bottle with your name on it as a form of id if needed.
     
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  11. CHFG8R

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    Definitely the difference in these traditionally D states that always go D anyway.

    This is such a perfect example of how dumb this country has become.

    Yes, you should have an ID/Voter registration. And, YES, those should be easy to get.
     
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  12. CHFG8R

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    Nope. Just a weird obsession with the 19th Century it seems.

    2024. The three largest states have been done counting for a while. But we have to wait for the carrier Pidgeon's in these backwaters. These states should be embarrassed, but they're too stupid to realize how stupid and antiquated they are.
     
  13. slocala

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    Not ready for that. No way I hand an unlocked phone to a LEO. There is probably a secure setting / app, but I am not handing my phone over.
     
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  14. citygator

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  15. ColoradoNoVaGator

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    I don’t know what the rules are in every state, but some state have rules that require provisional/damaged/whatever ballots to be counted if and only if the normal counts result in a margin of X percent.

    My son did not receive a mail in ballot here in Colorado (long story) so he went to vote in-person. It’s my understanding that the rare in-person vote here won’t even be tallied as the margin for Harris was sufficiently large to make the in-persons irrelevant.
     
  16. archigator_96

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    Isn't that what they give cows to prevent pink eye?
    Or maybe it was the evil witch in the Harry Potter series.
     
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  17. OklahomaGator

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    Oklahoma has that app. Oklahoma Mobile ID.
     
  18. pkaib01

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    Change the map's caption to "states that trump won with voter suppression laws" and this conversation changes.

    There are studies that indicate that voter ID laws suppress the vote, there are no studies indicating it changes the outcome of Elections.

    Those stopping their feet for voter ID laws at at the expense of marginalized groups have a real problem with other people's liberties.
     
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  19. gatordavisl

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    Either does this one.
     
  20. Gatorrick22

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    I think state's right should prevail in state elections... but I do think that if anyone is running for a federal level position on a state ballot, we need to make those "state" elections uniformly identical.

    I think Florida has that election system down to a science... Watch how many Leftists suddenly don't like that science.