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SCOTUS rules VA can continue its limited voter roll purge

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Oct 30, 2024.

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  1. OklahomaGator

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    No article yet, just say it reported on the news but VA can continue it's purge of individual voters who indicated they were not US Citizens from their voter rolls.

    It only makes sense to me, it is not a wide purge, just isolated.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    How much Type I error (i.e., identification as a non-citizen when somebody actually is a citizen) do you think makes sense?

    https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5169204/virginia-noncitizen-voter-purge

    From the article, here are the stats from another similar program in Alabama.

    So out of, being generous here, 2,084 "suspected" non-citizens, the court identified 2,074 citizens and, at most, 10 non-citizens. Do you think that is a reasonable error rate?
     
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  3. gator95

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    Good. Virginia can continue to enforce a law on the books since 2006 signed by a dem.
     
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  4. AndyGator

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    I don't think Republicans care as long as they get rid of Dem voters.
     
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  5. rtgator

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    Exactly right! When have they EVER come down on the side of the electorate?
     
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  6. surfn1080

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    How this even needed a Supreme Court ruling will always baffle me.

    Saw something earlier today that a NV court ruled they must count mail-in ballots received no later than 5 PM the third day following the election even if the postmark date cannot be determined. Insane...
     
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    You're right for once. It's clearly in violation of the "too late" 90 days from an election law but that means nothing to this right wing politics first SCOTUS.
     
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  8. gaterzfan

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    I don’t understand why American citizens would not want the voter registration database scrubbed of illegals, dead, and non-voters. I guess if you’re planning to commit election fraud having those names as registered voters helps in that endeavor.
     
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  9. surfn1080

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    The rule was not designed to protect those who are NOT US citizens. Try again.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    Okay, let me directly ask you the question everybody is avoiding:

    How much Type I error (i.e., identification as a non-citizen when somebody actually is a citizen) do you think makes sense?

    Given that Alabama apparently (at best) identified 10 non-citizens correctly while identifying and trying to cancel the registration of 2,074 citizens, what is the acceptable error rate? Apparently, it is higher than 99.5%. So what level is acceptable to you for errors? 99.7%? 99.9%?
     
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  11. gatorchamps960608

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    There's no guarantee citizens won't be purged also.

    This is election interference. There is no reason this action couldn't have taken place in July.
     
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  12. citygator

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    I don’t think you understand the argument and haven’t answered the simple question asked above.
     
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    There was an article on the subject in the Washington Post when Youngkin began the purge several weeks ago. A review of the voters purged indicated that the overwhelming majority were in fact US citizens who had failed to check the appropriate box on their mail registration forms or in some cases failed to sign the forms. They weren't noncitizens who illegally registered to vote.
     
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  14. Gator40

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    This is inaccurate and misleading. The original law was never challenged, it was Republican governor Youngkin's executive order signed August 7th. It expanded the data collection from monthly to daily and was signed within the so-called 90 day "quiet period" of the National Voter Registration Act where governor's can't change laws to remove ineligible voters running up to an election.

    Changing and expanding the data collection before the election was the reason for the challenge. The 2006 law as written would have stayed in place.

    Please be more accurate.
     
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  17. mdgator05

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    Can you point out in the article where it says that she gets to vote after being purged from the rolls? She isn't registered to vote any longer, and you need to be registered to vote.
     
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  18. gatorchamps960608

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    I believe I read Virginia has same-day voter registration so she should be able to get back on the rolls.
     
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    Virginia specifically said they are only removing those who have self-identified as a noncitizen.

    There is a difference between a state removing suspected noncitizens vs a state removing citizens who have self-identified as a citizen.

    You don't think we need to take measures considering the millions of migrants that have entered our country in the last 3.5 years? Clearly, many noncitizens have registered to vote otherwise this wouldn't be coming up.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    Well, if the government says so. But how did the prople indicate that, specifically? Did the government send somebody to their house?
     
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