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(VB) Would you forfeit if you were the coach?

Discussion in 'Alligator Alley (other sports)' started by johnny_cakes, Sep 28, 2024.

  1. johnny_cakes

    johnny_cakes GC Hall of Fame

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    I'm pretty sure that opinions will vary, but it would be interesting to see what people think.

    Teams facing #1 San Jose State in the Mountain West Conference are forfeiting games. Two teams have forfeited matches so far and it looks like a third team is on the verge.

    Interestingly, one of the player's teammates -- who used to room with her -- has joined a lawsuit against the NCAA for permitting her to play.

    Boise State volleyball forfeits match against SJSU, lawsuit alleges SJSU player Blaire Fleming is transgender (kron4.com)
     
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  2. Kirby

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    Yes
     
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  3. GatorLurker

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    Too hot.
     
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  4. ETGator1

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    yes, forfeit.
     
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  5. ssgator80

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    Yes
     
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  6. huunterhound

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    Yes. And I'll go even further. One of two things need to happen. A school builds an entire roster like that and literally destroys everyone to show how absurd it is or, because that will never happen, nobody should ever play that team period. That would mean those female athletes would never compete in a game and maybe they would not participate on those rosters in the future thus making it a non starter.
    It has to be hard for some of them to make these decisions that may ruin their career so it is up to other schools and coaches to do the hard thing and be responsible and make the stand for them.
     
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  7. ETGator1

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    85% of those posters on Too Hot are woketard leftists. Every single one of their answers are already known. Keep this here for us normal people. Over there it would be 23 not to forfeit to 4 to forfeit being that it's 4-0 to forfeit as of this post. It is as predictable as rain.
     
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  8. johnny_cakes

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    Even putting aside the forfeit question, that has to be a very uncomfortable locker room:

    Your team can't play matches because of you.
    Your teammate (and former roommate) has joined a lawsuit to stop you from playing.

    This is just sports. At what point do you figure that there no "i" in TEAM and you just voluntarily walk away for the good of the program?
    Personally, I try to avoid places where I'm not wanted.
     
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  9. gtr2x

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    "Us normal people"? That's a laugh. You are one of the most out there wingnuts on thfsg. :eek::rolleyes:
     
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  10. LTG61

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    Maybe a compromise is in order, along with some good old fashioned collusion.

    If your school has an away game at SJSU: forfeit. Saves your travel costs and deprives them of playing at home.

    If your school hosts SJSU: add six men players to your roster, send them out in tutus, and RUTS. SJSU finishes .500 in the conference.
     
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  11. WESGATORS

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    At the college level, no. I'm *hard right* on this issue, but I'd rather compete than not compete. I would think playing the game under protest is more appropriate than forfeiting. In high school, I might think differently. I saw a UF player knock a Wisconsin player off her feet and on her butt last year with a 6-pack to the face. My issue is more on the fundamental nature of why we even have a separation of sports for males and females. But there is likely more disparity in talent within "women's volleyball" than there is between women's volleyball and men's volleyball at various levels.

    Fundamentally, do we need to have a separation? I like it, it seems to work, but if we're going to have it then let it maintain a useful distinction. I don't see anybody advocating for eliminating it, so it's probably not worth even going down that road.

    This may be a "too hot" issue, but it doesn't have to be. Regardless, it's a real life circumstance that people need to figure out the best way forward on.

    Go GATORS!
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  12. Kirby

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    No figuring out required. You play based on the plumbing you were born with. Its that simple
     
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  13. WESGATORS

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    On a personal level, I agree with you. But clearly the people that manage sports that we love to follow aren't all on the same page...that's the "figur[ing] out" part that I'm talking about.

    Go GATORS!
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  14. scrappygator

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    Then where do you go? :emoji_confused:
     
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    My thought is if she roomed with him and did not know his plumbing was different, his pipe must be mighty small.
     
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  16. ETGator1

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    I agree with the Idaho governor. This is the direction we're headed in as it is the only option at this time:

    Gov. Brad Little Cheers Boise State Women's Volleyball for Canceling Game Against Team with Trans Player (breitbart.com)

    Republican Idaho Gov. Brad Little cheered Boise State University women’s volleyball after the team’s decision to forfeit their Saturday game against San José State, who “quietly” added a trans player to their team in April.

    Little applauded the team for ensuring “player safety” and continuing “the fight for fairness in women’s sports.”

    “I applaud @BoiseState for working within the spirit of my Executive Order, the Defending Women’s Sports Act,” Little posted on Friday, along with the statement from Boise State volleyball. “We need to ensure player safety for all of our female athletes and continue the fight for fairness in women’s sports.”
     
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  17. candymanfromgc

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    Its going to get worse so they need to make a stand.
     
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