Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Fundamental restructuring of UF football

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by gatorwalrus, Sep 5, 2024.

  1. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

    5,699
    499
    363
    Apr 24, 2007
    St. Augustine, FL
    Sweet!
     
  2. RealGatorFan

    RealGatorFan Premium Member

    14,962
    7,698
    2,893
    Apr 3, 2007
    As others have said, I think college sports are about to morph into semi-professional leagues. All sports, not just football.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. gatorbreeder

    gatorbreeder GC Legend

    524
    209
    168
    Jun 23, 2023
    I'll never understand this mentality for several reasons. First, the NFL is a boring league. Second, were you not a fan prior to attending the university? Third and maybe most importantly what attachment do you have for some upstart franchise in the state that you wouldn't have for Florida had you not attended? I did my 4 years at UCSD and am still all Gator, because, I always was. Were you apart of the Jaguars, Bucs, etc organizations before? Some vested interest? I'm genuinely curious, not taking a shot here.
     
  4. kryptonite

    kryptonite GC Hall of Fame

    3,203
    1,223
    2,118
    Dec 12, 2008
    We got the 4th most donations from 2004 to 2022, just behind Texas by a small margin. The coaches know Gator Nation will donate when they feel good about the coaching situation. This isn't a chicken and the egg argument.
     
  5. toprowgator

    toprowgator GC Legend

    591
    171
    1,733
    Jun 24, 2019
    Or the coaching candidate could cut through the speculation and go where the money already is.
     
  6. toprowgator

    toprowgator GC Legend

    591
    171
    1,733
    Jun 24, 2019
    Yup.
     
  7. kryptonite

    kryptonite GC Hall of Fame

    3,203
    1,223
    2,118
    Dec 12, 2008
    That was many hundreds of millions that was many millions above LSU, Ohio State. That tells all coaches the money is there. One year of NIL tells them nothing.
     
  8. tarponbro

    tarponbro All American

    466
    87
    1,818
    Feb 10, 2016
    Jacksonville, Fl.
    I wasn't a Gator fan before I went to UF. I liked the University of Houston with the Veer T offense and I also cheered for UCLA. I was born and raised in Jacksonville so that's why I cheer for the Jags. Before there was a team in Jacksonville I cheered for the Bucs and the Bengals, and the Colts were my first NFL favorite team. If the Gators aren't affiliated with UF they're close to being just another football team to me. I don't watch any other football leagues besides NCAA football and the NFL and I don't think that would change. I'm getting close to watching very little UF football because the teams aggravate me on a regular basis for a few reasons, i.e. their level of play in the games and recruiting.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. phrogs_4_ever

    phrogs_4_ever Freshman

    14
    2
    1,688
    Nov 7, 2021
    • Stop following the current college football model. Do not pay a new coach a lot of money to "build a program". Current model is most beneficial for coaches and their agents.
    • Create an NFL-style front office.
    • Hire NFL GM to rip and replace everything to fit an NFL club. Front office runs recruiting, builds enduring relationships and provides players to the coach.
    • Spend as much money as possible on players instead of a big name coach.
    • Hire promising NFL assistant coach as head coach. Make the job as similar to NFL as possible. Make the head coach position easy to replace.
    -or-

    Keep doing things the same way. Hire Lane Kiffin and try to keep up with Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Ohio State, etc.

    Innovate or die!
     
    • Like x 2
    • Agree x 2
    • Funny x 1
    • Winner x 1
    • Come On Man x 1
  10. CHFG8R

    CHFG8R GC Hall of Fame

    5,699
    499
    363
    Apr 24, 2007
    St. Augustine, FL
    I'm down. This is what it is. Better to be ahead of the game than playing catch up.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2024
    • Like Like x 1
  11. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    88,050
    26,454
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Screw the NFL and everything that emulates it.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  12. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    88,050
    26,454
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007

    One more thing this COLLEGE FOOTBALL... NOT THE NFL.
     
  13. tigator2019

    tigator2019 GC Hall of Fame

    1,445
    2,565
    1,873
    Dec 25, 2018
    In my head--- UF
    Right. No middle ground

    innovation at osu, lsu, ut, uga?
    ole miss - innovation there? top 5 program right?

    No.

    You have mo idea on what you are talking about
     
  14. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,354
    13,229
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    just win baby- Mr. Davis
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. gatorstrackman

    gatorstrackman GC Legend

    791
    283
    1,693
    Nov 24, 2021
    Spurrier thought having 2 ADs “that’s not against the rules” with one just for football was an interesting idea.
    Have to do something different that’s for sure
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  16. gator34654

    gator34654 GC Hall of Fame

    5,304
    713
    358
    Jun 5, 2007
    1. I'd give a base pay with lots of high priced incentives.
    2. Make the coach earn a bigger buyout
    3. Agree, money saved pay on players and top assistant coaches.

    I agree with a new way of doing things because rarely in college football is there a can't miss coach. Heck, UT was not thrilled with the signing of JH. Make coaches earn their pay and NO more paying coaches millions due to failing.

    I'd rather take a chance on some hungry coaches who could succeed than to once again pay millions of dollars on a coach who promises the world but doesn't deliver. These so called slam dunk coaches we have had have set UF back big time. You know the definition of insanity.
     
  17. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    5,998
    1,373
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    When was our last "slam-dunk" hire? Our two best coaches all-time weren't even considered slam dunk hires. I can't recall how many times I heard "Oh, Spurrier won't be successful at UF, he spends to much time on the golf course" or "Urban's cutsie little offense will never work in the SEC where they play defense." Those two only became can't miss coaches during their UF tenure, rather than before.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  18. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    6,040
    1,467
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    The only sure thing is that there’s no sure thing.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  19. maxgator

    maxgator GC Hall of Fame

    4,144
    301
    378
    Apr 3, 2007
    To be head coach at Florida or any power football program almost always requires the head coach to take a step up or many steps up. There is always a question of whether they can.

    Very rarely do you get the chance to hire a coach who has won a national championship. Bama and OSU notwithstanding. That's not happening for us. Those are the closest to a sure thing.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  20. SmootyGator

    SmootyGator GC Hall of Fame

    3,174
    610
    383
    Apr 17, 2007
    Tampa, Florida
    That's why we should hire Frost! He's won a national championship!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1