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Shots fired at Trump during rally

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ThePlayer, Jul 13, 2024.

  1. ovillegator

    ovillegator Premium Member

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    St. Augustine!
    Not worth taking a chance! It's gone!
     
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  2. ovillegator

    ovillegator Premium Member

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    Agreed. But the hate espoused by Democrats does exactly the same. Who said time to 'target' Trump? The Big Guy. Both sides do it, and they don't negate each other. They expand the hatred exponentially from both sides. For some reason, they can vilify Trump without accepting they carry the exact same faults, exact same speech -- maybe more cleverly hidden than Trump the New Yorker. But the seething hatred is the same.
     
  3. helix

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    That is what most of our military rifles shoot with m193 or m855 ammo. Unless you’re building your own or investing in something considerably more expensive like a knights, seekins, larue, etc, 2-4 MOA is within spec. DPMS was probably a bit below PSA quality before PSA’s parent company, ironically, purchased the DPMS name along with others during the Remington bankruptcy.

    AR-15s are just generally not considered precision rifles and not designed as such, with some exception. You can get in the 1-1.5MOA range with a higher end gun like a DD, JP, KAC, Seekins, etc or by building your own with a quality barrel and matched bolt and combining it with match ammo, but don’t expect most colts, BCMs, PSAs, Aero Precisions, etc that are rack grade or budget to perform at a higher level than they are actually capable of.
     
  4. helix

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    This is a fairly good breakdown:

     
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  5. QGator2414

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    Thanks for sharing. I had not seen this one. Not sure we will ever have a leader with the whit of Reagan again!
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

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    come on man..if they talk about their target audience do you think they want them to get shot up? that kind of stretch takes away any semblance of credibility

    djt villifies himself just like he gets charged with breaking the law because he breaks the law.
     
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  7. gatorpa

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    I understood exactly none of this post.

    lol
     
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  8. ovillegator

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    Most Republicans say it with pride in the country, that's all. Look at the people in PA -- they were farmers, salt of the earth types. They believe in Trump the way you believe in Biden. You say MAGA means the people who stormed the capitol. Or Nazi party members. Nope, no more than the Democrats who were burning police stations and buildings a year or so ago, or the ones with death-filled hate speech toward Israelis, represent most Democrats. The radicals of EACH party are just that, and they've always been there. MSM just highlights them because IT MAKES YOU AND ME WATCH TV AND READ THEIR INTERNET STORIES.
     
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  9. ovillegator

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    Of course he does, and he's proven it many times. And I could make the very same case for Biden using his own words. Biden's just better at hiding the truth, due likely to a career as nothing but a politician. Trump sounds like most businessmen I've dealt with in my career -- both Dems and Reps.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    As a reminder, he is currently unable to form a charity in New York state because he stole money from his own charity for his own personal and political use. Is that something that you think an empathetic person does?
     
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  11. ovillegator

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    He gets charged with breaking the law because they create crimes that really aren't crimes in any real world, only in a world where 'lawfare' is used to 'hit' someone. If you think Biden is any less pompous and arrogant than Trump, you are wrong. They just present it differently.

    And I had to look it up -- Biden told supporters to put rival Donald Trump in a "bullseye." That's worse than 'target'. And Biden, to his credit, said after the shooting it was a bad choice of words.
     
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  12. gatorpa

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    30 min. But was a good watch
     
  13. helix

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    Ha. TLDR is this was a budget rifle (sub $1000) of comparable or lesser quality to a military issued infantry (read: grunt) rifle capable of shooting a 5 shot string within a circle of of about 2-4” diameter at 100 yards with commonly used infantry-grade ammunition. It is generally milspec with probably a few compromises in quality that your average shooter who doesn’t shoot high volumes of fire or need reliability in harsh environments would never notice. Performance until component failure would be roughly identical.

    You can get a more accurate rifle, but getting one that gets you close to putting 5 rounds inside a 1-1.5” circle at 100 yards is going to cost you 2-3x or more what the shooter’s rifle cost.
     
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  14. okeechobee

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    “excluding the female agents who ducked for cover”

    Sorry, you have to find some levity and I nearly spit my water when he said that.
     
  15. okeechobee

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    “I guess he was like a Uvalde cop or something.”

    YUP.
     
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  17. okeechobee

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    At the very least, the officers who pursued him were Uvalde type cops who chose themselves over Trump.
     
  18. demosthenes

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    Yes, clearly Biden saying that Democrats need to stop focusing on his debate performance and back on Trump is “hate” or violent language.
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  20. vaxcardinal

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    Lots of videos explain that