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Disgusting sign of the times (racism related)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Jun 5, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    I don't think so either, I think the controversy would be what "protective" actually means in practice. I don't think women as a group necessarily think of that as their men attacking other men who do them wrong. Cant really be protective while you are in prison for assault, for example.
     
  2. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    That guy in Loudoun was speaking at a place to speak, to a group that was charged with addressing the matter he was complaining about. Whatever excesses there were, he was complaining where you complain to the people you complain to.

    This guy assaulted someone in the middle of a graduation where he wasn't supposed to be, without any chance of addressing the thing he was complaining about (presuming he actually was - skeptical), or anyone even understanding his issue. He was not even communicating any message, just assault. Pure ahole behavior. Not just the wrong way to handle, it wasn't any calculated way to handle a grievance.
     
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  3. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    You all are reading way more into it than I intended. I am only saying there is a segment of the population that will respect the guy for standing up for his daughter, whatever the circumstance, even if he was wrong in how he did it. I don’t think that’s a terribly controversial point.
     
  4. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    I think that is largely the same segment of people who are already sympathetic to this guy despite all appearances of him being a racist jerk. It's just the predator meme with racism & patriarchy.
     
  5. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    And, the dad confirmed he was mad over bullying, and that the guy dismissed his claims. He also had a “unique”version of the actual event.

    Wisconsin father who blocked school superintendent from shaking high school graduate's daughter shares details of 'rude' encounter as his lie is exposed | Daily Mail Online

     
  6. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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  7. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    The article says this:
    “She was expelled for doing the same thing that was done to her… there was a meeting with him,' Eddy said.”

    But fair enough bullying isn’t explicitly mentioned only implied…but everything else I read was that was what she was in trouble for. And it’s implied.

    Whatever the underlying incident, dad thought there was a double standard in how his daughter was treated vs. what happened to her. And that this guy was dismissive of his complaints in his view.
    Again, maybe still had racial undertones (we may never really know) but it’s definitely a far more complicated picture. If both these guys were white the story would have been over long ago.
    The fact that people just assumed and took as fact that he was a racist is what frustrates me. Society always vilifies first and seeks facts later. And being labeled a racist is not a charge you come back from. Civil rights organizations called it “clearly racist” without an iota of the back story. News outlets at a minimum inferred it was with zero evidence (to generate clicks), other than the guy was white and the SI black.
    Stories like these are unfair to everyone involved and does a disservice to the larger conversation on race.
     
  8. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Yea, because it likely would not have happened
     
  9. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    Thanks for making my point.
     
  10. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    I wonder if race was a factor in the alleged bullying incident. I also wonder why dad showed up to graduation in shorts and a ball cap. The dad lied about who made first contact on stage. He just might be lying about the reason for his indiscretion.
     
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  11. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    You're welcome, and vice-versa. White people are so misunderstood
     
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  12. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    It could have been a factor, we will likely never know. I just hate the assumption that it was given he had a valid reason to be angry (allegedly) and because two races were involved. Even if his actions were awful.
    It’s a lazy answer that plays to what people want to see in it and generates the expected outrage.
     
  13. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    See my last response above to Davis.
    I’ll leave it at that for now.
     
  14. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    It never seems to be complicated when someone is disruptive and/or breaks the law at a protest, nor is there much interest in exploring their actual motives beyond whatever media coverage exists. But we are dealing with a poster firmly in the 'being sympathetic to white people's feelings will solve white racism' camp. We have to assume good intentions, even when you are a jackass disrupting a graduation, or else we are setting back racial progress.
     
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  15. oragator1

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    Again, misrepresenting my post(s), and blatantly hypocritical.
    I allowed for the fact that he could be racist. I have said repeatedly what he did was wrong, even if he was defending his daughter.
    But again and again, when I point out that he allegedly had a valid reason to be angry and that there are valid reasons for his stupidity beyond race, the response is either to attack me as an apologist, or say “well it probably was”, even though there is zero evidence to support it, other than the fact that the encounter was interracial. But declaring him racist out of hand is apparently perfectly fine. The story was set with the initial article posted, and no one wants to admit they could have been wrong.
    It’s a bizarre world we live in, it’s like the left is desperate to alienate the middle faster than the right can. Stuff like this is exactly why Biden is losing to the worst human being on the planet, and you all still can’t see it.
    But that’s my last post on it regardless of who responds.
     
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  16. GatorJMDZ

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    The father/defendant talks/lies to law enforcement:


    The superintendent/victim speaks:
     
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  17. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot Moderator VIP Member

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    Protecting his daughter was likely not Matthew Eddy's motivation for pushing Superintendent Briggs backwards on the stage. He was overheard saying, he(Briggs) was not going to touch his f***ing child. Not something a concerned loving father would say about his daughter.

    Man Charged For Disrupting H.S. Graduation

    "Matthew Eddy, 49, disrupted the May 31 ceremony at Baraboo High School moments after his daughter Elyse’s name was announced and she collected her diploma and began shaking hands with school officials.

    "In a police interview, Eddy claimed that he and his daughter had “past issues” with Rainey Briggs and disliked the Baraboo School District superintendent. Eddy 'stated he wanted to prevent [Briggs] from having the satisfaction of shaking his child’s hand, so he went on the stage to prevent that from happening.' Asked if he was remorseful for disrupting the ceremony, 'Matthew stated he was, but only for his child’s sake,' according to the complaint.

    "Eddy explained that he felt Briggs 'treated he and his child unfairly and unprofessionally during a prior educational administrative proceeding which resulted in a negative educational consequence for his child.' The court filing does nor further detail this proceeding.

    "In a June 5 interview, Briggs told police that Eddy grabbed his shoulder and pushed him backwards, saying that 'he was not going to touch his "F***ing" child.' Briggs told investigators that he 'didn’t believe he knew who Matthew was until' the incident.

    Graduation Arrest

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  18. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Can’t wait to listen. Justice Alito’s sentiments are default

     
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