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The State of College Football

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doublewhammy, Jun 8, 2024.

  1. Spurffelbow833

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    Bring 'em on! We're ready!

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  2. savannahgator5220

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    833 are you sure that isn't the FSU parking lot? I have decent cars but a nice house in a nice neighborhood with great neighbors. Rather be house rich than car rich. Anybody with a brain knows cars depreciate in value as opposed to houses which rise in value.
     
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  3. paidinfull

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    You obviously haven’t taken a look at our athlete parking lot in a while.
     
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  4. librarywestpatron2005

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    Athletes getting paid via NIL I don’t mind.
    What I do mind is the extreme turnover (bring back the one year wait) and destruction of conferences (there should be football only conferences and then conferences for other sports).
     
  5. 96Gatorcise

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    Explain why a player should have to sit out a year?
    It's a one year ( academic year) athletic scholarship.
    Technically the scholarship is a semester to semester scholarship. Meaning the school doesn't pay for anything except for the semester the players are enrolled.

    So if a player comes in Summer A and decides to transfer at the end of fall football season. The UAA will only pay out to the university for summer A,B and Fall enrollment.

    Yet if the player isn't academically eligible for the Fall season the university can drop the scholarship.
    As far as turnover, meh, the coach and staff are being paid 10's of millions of dollars to deal with that.
     
  6. librarywestpatron2005

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    Good point about the schollies.
    Let me ask I don’t know - are other schollies a year only or just football?
    If other schollies are for 4 years then football should be too.
     
  7. archigator_96

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    Don't know about other sports but football is year to year. Unfortunately, it could also be used by coaches to cull the roster and "greyshirt" players that either aren't panning out or the coach wants to hedge their bets.
     
  8. 96Gatorcise

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    Most are only for one year. The schools and coaches don't want them longer. Can't process out an underperforming player if they are locked into a long-term scholarship.
     
  9. librarywestpatron2005

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    Thanks for the response. Likely some other solution to encourage players to stay long term at a school. I don’t want anyone forced to stay, but there has to be sensible way to reduce turnover.
     
  10. 96Gatorcise

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    Winning, a strong culture and a good compensation program will get the majority to stay. You have to remember that the players were only around for 3-4 years anyway. Now that is reduced to 2-3 years with the portal and most of that movement is depth players looking for playing time.

    Also remember, it was the NCAA that dropped the "sit out a year" because they knew they would lose the lawsuit like so many others they have lost because of their refusal to adapt over the last few decades.
     
  11. TrueGator

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    I'm not sure the two issues don't go hand-in-hand. Bring on the NIL contract world, allow unrestricted free-agency, then sit back and watch as each school attempts to tamper and outbid every half-way successful player with a higher valued contract each year.
     
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  12. Skink

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    It’s naive to think this won’t happen
     
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  13. gainesvillegreen44

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    Do you find greed for greeds sake disgusting? The amount of billionaires, trust fund kids and hedge fund hucksters we produce disgusting? CEO’s making 275x their workers? Or just young athletes? Just trying to gage your level of disgust? And where this falls on the spectrum.
     
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  14. orangeblue_coop

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    Seeing ridiculously wealthy people get even richer doesn’t bother them, seeing young broke kids who come from nothing drive nice cars is what sends them over the edge lol
     
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  15. Crikey

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    Over time, everything is eventually corrupted. We should be happy that we were able to experience student athletes playing their hearts out for their school and a chance to play in the big league. Now, it’s a horribly mismanaged NFL-lite, with extremes of haves and have nots in the locker rooms, and with the chaos of fickle athletes coming and going as they please, leaving soulless teams without continuity and personality.

    All the bad things about the NFL without the guardrails, having little to do with the institution of learning that hosts it. Yuk.
     
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  16. Crikey

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    I have no issue with seeing people get ahead, in fact, I love a good success story and wish happiness to all honorable people, and if they can handle wealth, then wealth for them as well. After all, I was one of those “broke kids”, and have been paying it forward ever since I reached the top of my profession.

    Regardless, I can also see how the college game has suffered in the fans’ eyes because of the natural corrupting influence of vast sums of money. It didn’t start when athletes were paid. It only became more pronounced.

    I am impressed how you beat the ever-living hell out of that straw man there. No doubt, all straw men are now cowering in fear of your awesome power. :D
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    That’s what we’ve been watching isn’t it. Figure out how to create some stability and it may be better. Maybe just like the last thirty years at least
     
  18. gainesvillegreen44

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    Nailed. I never heard a word when it was Nike or ESPN or coaches making billions. “Well tHeY eArNeD it… it’s rUiNing ThE game” … seem like hollow, disingenuous arguments when you never complained once about coaches getting paid millions to go 4-8 and get fired lol. I think we all know what it’s about. “Anyone who grew up in Texas knows what the problem is here “
     
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  19. orangeblue_coop

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    Congrats to you for working hard and making something of yourself. I venture to guess that’s what these young athletes are also trying to do, while navigating a new world and a new system that’s constantly changing.

    I’m not sure about the part about the “college game suffering.” Aside from the rule changes they’ve implemented to focus on player safety, I still see players busting their tails during summer workouts in the intense heat to get ready for the season, and out there playing every Saturday with intensity, pride and passion. The only thing is now some players will sit out bowl games but again, that’s a byproduct of the system now.
     
  20. orangeblue_coop

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    Lol yeah I’m not buying it. They’re going to have to sell me on the real reason seeing a kid driving a Lamborghini upsets them. College football coaches are the highest paid public employees in many states and a lot of them are getting paid a ton of money to be straight up failures, if that doesn’t bother you seeing a kid drive a nice car shouldn’t either.
     
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