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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. PITBOSS

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    Good point. per that article it sounded like russia is massing just over the border. Near Kharkiv. Maybe once they have the 500k soldiers and tanks they just charge towards Kharkiv. imo before that happens Ukraine wants to start lobbing atacms into masses of men and equipment just sitting there, but they are inside Russia.
    To your point, we’re concerned Ukraine starts losing bad and they launch missiles deeper into Russia. does russia then retaliate with nukes? But for now, Russia is taking advantage of the limitation we put on Ukraine and staging their army. It’s unfortunate Kharkiv is so close to the border. Maybe Ukraine used up their good luck at the start of the war.


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  2. chemgator

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    Wrong again, propaganda man. Russia is believed to have suffered about 350-465,000 casualties in the war, and is currently losing troops at a rate to match or exceed 330,000 soldiers this year. They should hit the 500,000 mark by the end of the year, if not sooner.

    The truth is that PUTIN views this war as existential. As in, if he loses it, he might as well put a bullet in his own head before he gets introduced to a balcony by the next Russian leader. The rest of Russia, outside of a few war-mongering bloggers and neo-Nazis, doesn't care. Whatever tiny value they might get out of Ukraine's minerals and farmland is by far exceeded by the persistent threat of having friends and relatives killed in war of conquest.

    Russian losses in Ukraine on course to far outstrip 2023 total

     
  3. slayerxing

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    It’s sad that pussy footing by the west has wasted Ukraines best troops. Kind of makes you wonder if the equipment is enough to make up the manpower differences for much longer.

    interesting question as we move forward - how far does Russia have to advance before Eastern Europe feels compelled to get involved more directly? What about Western Europe?
     
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  4. okeechobee

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    I don’t think the weapons will make any difference. I think this was always going to happen. As I brought up earlier, what good are the weapons when you don’t have the men to use them?
     
  5. okeechobee

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    Zelenskyy canceling visits with world leaders tells me he knows Kharkiv is about to fall in the next couple of weeks. As we know, Kharkiv was historically Russian.
     
  6. slayerxing

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    Being historically Russian is irrelevant. Alaska was formerly Russian...
     
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  7. uftaipan

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    So we have you on record. Kharkiv is going to fall, right? No excuses. No bullshit about “feints.” This is going to happen, and there’s nothing that Ukraine can do to stop it, right?
     
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  8. ursidman

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    Is this the message Ukraine wanted?
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    Another big mistake
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    Georgia in a nutshell. Hint: it’s all interconnected

     
  11. okeechobee

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    Does it trigger you when I point out Kharkiv was historically Russian? Whether Kharkiv falls is likely up to Russia more than it is Ukraine at this point.
     
  12. slayerxing

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    If that was the case wouldn't the war be over lol
     
  13. VAg8r1

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    As a point of information the population of the Kharhiv Oblast of which Kharkiv is the capitol and largest city is 70.7% Ukrainian and 25.6% Russian.
     
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  14. slayerxing

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    This is the ukraine war thread- facts are for sissys.
     
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  15. okeechobee

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    I wonder if Zelenskyy now regrets needlessly bombing Belgorod. I'm sure it seemed like a smart, strategic move at the time. :confused:
     
  16. NavyGator93

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    Bizarre is giving him too much credit. He digs up some of the dumbest crap to support his bullshit. Neither one of his accounts are worth responding to.
     
  17. uftaipan

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    Why would he regret it?
     
  18. okeechobee

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    IDK, maybe because Russia is currently mowing over village after village just over the border from Belgorod en route to Kharkiv?
     
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  19. uftaipan

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    Not particularly. Helsinki is historically Russian, too. So what? Do you mind committing to Russia successfully taking Kharkiv, or do you want to leave yourself some wiggle room in case they fail again?
     
  20. uftaipan

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    Still don't see the connection. Was Russia not going to do that before but the Belgorod attacks (for which I can find no evidence Ukraine has taken responsibility, by the way) was the final straw for them? Russia's political goal is to take all of Ukraine. There's no one thing that Ukraine can do or not do to make them stop.