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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by swampbabe, Feb 15, 2024.

  1. Claygator

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    I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion that a dollar that goes into NIL is better for the "program" (your word) than a dollar than goes into "facilities" or "other things" (your words again) because "facilities" and "other things" sound like the "program" to me.

    Having said that, I think what you are trying to say is that because we don't give "donor points" for donations to the NIL collectives, that people won't donate to the NIL as a result?
     
  2. Claygator

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    Not kidding, just not convinced. Without having the numbers to show what NIL dollars are available to each school, it would be difficult to do a comparison to conclude that not giving donor points to UF donors to the collective was a "game changer" or made no difference at all.
     
  3. thegatorvault

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    Putting the legalities aside, the UAA and our collective may be chasing some of the same money. If the amount of money the UAA ‘normally’ takes in is less because boosters are diverting it to the collective, the UAA may have zero interest in helping the collective since it would facilitate the departure of those funds. I could be 100% wrong but this did occur to me reading through the discussion.
     
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  4. Claygator

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    Interesting point.

    But would listing the collective as a donor so as to award donor points make much difference either way? I dunno.
     
  5. thegatorvault

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    Yeah I don’t know either. I just think we shouldn’t assume the big donor boosters are going to keep up their ‘normal’ donations to the UAA and then kick out even more dollars to the collective. Maybe they will, I have zero clue.

    It is dumb that our collective isn’t reaching out to Gator Nation more though. Fundraising isn’t rocket science but it sure seems like the casual fan has zero clue about NIL and donations. It’s def weird.
     
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  6. Matthanuf06

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    No. It’s not about donor points.

    It’s more about trusting the school. When the school says to donate to a cause people do it. SS said as much.

    Since NIL and other donations are fighting over the same pool, if the school has higher priorities then NIL donations will be lower.
     
  7. Matthanuf06

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    Oh a dollar to NIL is definitely a dollar away from the UAA. Given SS value add is “fundraising” he probably sees NIL as his mortal enemy
     
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  8. Claygator

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    So you say, without evidence.

    But nice play on SS- who didn't say what you are implying.

    Look, none of us have an answer to this question, because there is no transparency.
     
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  9. Matthanuf06

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    Im sure some whales are now donating more since NIL is a thing. But most people can only donate (or spend) “X” dollars on UF. Just because NIL is a thing doesn’t mean people’s UF budgets grew
     
  10. tegator80

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    My "owning" a piece of the Gator NIL is right up there with the Green Bay folks "owning" the Packers. There is emotional support and then there are the real players.

    I do not give to either. And if either or both suffer as a result, thems the breaks and I have to take the bad with the good.
     
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  11. Wanne15

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    I didn’t get that and I may be wrong but I heard outs better to pay Lagway than pay for my chair back or enhance my AC I. My box.
     
  12. Wanne15

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    So you are in no way responsible or supporting our new qb or the nice edge?
     
  13. Wanne15

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    Pay for play is pretty transparent if you just squint very slightly.
     
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  14. Wanne15

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    They are taking I. More cash than ever and 10-15 mil does make a slight dent but compared to the 51% the nfl pays, it’s still the most profitable model in all of sports.
     
  15. Matthanuf06

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    Oh of course.

    But it’s clear to me why an entity focused on fundraising would not promote NIL. It’s their competition. That’s why Napier wasn’t too enthusiastic in his video. He knows a dollar to the UAA is a dollar away from NIL.

    To solve this the UAA focus has to change. It has to be about winning even if it means you can’t break fundraising targets
     
  16. gatorwells

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    I’m not sure this is true but someone on another site mentioned they there’s a connection between “Alumni Participation Rate” and that Trojan Horse the university keeps chasing called a top 5 public university ranking. So there might be a conflict of interest in fundraising priorities. But it’s ridiculous to me that the FV collective isn’t even linked to the Gator Giving Day site when so many other “independent” entities like Gator Boosters and the University Athletic Association are. Just be honest and stop hoodwinking us about the university’s priorities if having an elite football program isn’t one of them. If that means averaging 8-9 wins a season with the occasional run at a conference championship or playoff appearance then I’m fine with it as long as there’s transparency.
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    if they want to give half ass effort then I’m going to half ass watch it on TV or not