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"Florida Gators athletic director reveals details for stadium renovations"

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Jan 12, 2024.

  1. duggers_dad

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    How so ?
     
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  2. g8torlenny

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    That’s a politician for you. Be prepared Gators, cuts coming, and a higher price to be paid per seat..
     
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  3. Claygator

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    "Sellouts" only mean tickets sold. It doesn't mean people actually in the seats. Everyone knows this. And you can't possible think a Nebraska volleyball game has any relevance to college football games.

    Why promote an agenda? You're on this board a lot. You have to know that "sellouts" doesn't mean people in the seats.

    I think this is a very complicate analysis the UAA has to make on this topic, along with difficult future predictions. Attendance at games is trending downward across the country. Many schools are looking to downsize their stadiums for that reason, not just UF. Like Nebraska. And we don't even know if UAA intends to downsize our stadium, but they might.

    College football attendance is trending down, and how to address that is complicated. I haven't been to a "sold out" --as in fans in the seats- game at UF in a long time.

    I do know this: at UF in the '70's. with around 65k fans, we made a lot of noise. I don't see how reducing capacity by by 5-10k seats is going to impact the experience, particularly since for the last ten years we have rarely had over 75K people IN THE SEATS.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Nebraska puts Fannie’s in the seats. 92,000 showed up for a women’s volleyball match. I’ll bet 75,000 will show for the spring game. They’re just different animals.

    My ‘agenda’ here is to show that fanatical support does not necessarily translate to maintaining seating.
     
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  5. Gatorrick22

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    The question then becomes, would you rather sell-out more tickets, that people can't make... or less tickets that people can't make to the game? More ticket sales is better for everyone concerned, and with the added benefit that almost everyone that bought a ticket actually shows up to the game.

    Some people, not you per se, are moving the goalposts. Size... and seating capacity matters. It's not about how many can't make it to the game, it's about seating capacity.

    And yes, losing thousands of seats will diminish the loudness of the fans in the stadium... no matter how many people say otherwise.
     
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  6. Claygator

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    A women's volleyball game in Nebraska has zero correlation to a University of Florida football game. And why is Nebraska reducing the size of its stadium then if it has so many women's volleyball fans? They should be adding more seats to their football stadium if so many go to one women's volleyball game!!!:rolleyes: Yet they are not.

    You are another slave to the logical fallacy of inductive reasoning.
     
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  7. Claygator

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    A good question, and the obvious answer is: raise ticket prices.

    People aren't going to games. It is well documented, not just here, but everywhere. They are trying to make the games more desirable to attend. If people enjoy it more, then they will come is the thinking.

    I don't know if they are right and neither do you. But that is the current thinking, accepted nationwide, by people in the business. You aren't in the business, and neither am I.

    And I seriously doubt the UAA drops our seating capacity by much, if they do at all. Maybe all the whiny chicken littles should wait and see what the plan is before the cluck.
     
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  8. apkgator

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    For years I read on UF message boards.....Foley/SS are cheap and won't make our stadium comfortable for the fans. Why would I drive to Gville, sit in a tiny seat with no chairback when I can watch at home on a big screen tv in my recliner?
    So UF addresses those arguments and now the fans are mad the seats may be bigger and more comfortable because that will reduce capacity.
    Just can't win

    I have been at every home game but 1 since 1969. Losing a few thousand seats (many of which will be visitor seats) will not greatly impact noise. The design of the stadium/steep slope and a playing field down in a hole are going to remain. Kerwin Bell vs Auburn in 86, Wilber vs USC early 80's were just as loud as the 90k crowds of today
     
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  9. burtjeffson

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    in every possible way
     
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  10. Gator40

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    Exactly this. Everything I've read says that it will be visitor section ticket allotments that will shrink, so there will most likely be the same amount of Gator fans, but less rival fans. If the overall capacity is lowered, it will just be from a numbers-bragging angle (which we were never at the top of anyways at #11 nationally at just under 89,000 officially), but it won't really change the amount of UF fans in the seats.
     
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  11. crescent_beach

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    Just to add some context, Nebraska’s sellout streak is largely intact due to the actions of some local businesses (First National Bank of Omaha being the main player) who buy up unsold tickets to crappy games and then give them to their employees, donate them to “first responders”, charities, etc etc.

    Nebraska can still claim the sellout streak, and it’s true- all tickets were sold. But much like UF, there are tons of empty seats in the student section and elsewhere.
     
  12. Gatorrick22

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    The "plans" are not even on blue prints as of yet.
     
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  13. Crusher

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    IMO, you're focusing on the wrong sentence. The sentences that is more meaningful is: "In a perfect world, we don’t impact capacity negatively and we’re able to be at the same number.”

    As we all know, there is no perfect world. In the same interview he talked about the aisles needing to be widened and hand rails installed. As demonstrated in the various scenarios that were created just widening the aisles and doing nothing else :rolleyes: would be a reduction of almost 2,200 seats:

    Puzzled- Major Stadium Upgracde, Poor NIL Money

    Additionally, its a totally disingenuous to say that the aisles "NEED" to be widened. They don't. That is unless a renovation to the seating areas triggers the need to meet up to date codes. This AD is selling the fans a bunch of snake oil.
     
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  14. Crusher

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    As I'm sure you know its all about follow the dollar. Nebraska seems hellbent on becoming less and less relevant every year. They sure aren't a program that should be emulated.
     
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    It seems obvious that you haven't been to a game since the 70's because the above statement is completely ignorant.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    *perceptually* Nebraska and Florida are two programs headed in opposite directions. Husker fans are giddy about their short-term prospects based on Rhule and their recruiting and transfer portal haul.
     
  18. Crusher

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    What are we going on now? Almost 30 years of being irrelevant for Nowledge University? I've heard this before and I think I'll wait to believe it until I see results.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Who’s going on ? It hasn’t been many years since Solich. Also, did you miss the **. Pay attention.
     
  20. Crusher

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    *Your perception* does not match most observers. How many championships did Solich win? And its been straight downhill ever since they fired him.